Candace Owens reviews the Secret Service's response to Erica Kirk's security claim and the ATF's report on the Charlie Kirk shooting
Candace Owens solo episode examining the Secret Service's statement that there was no credible threat at the University of Georgia TPUSA rally, Erica Kirk's timeline that day, Victor Marx's early announcement of Charlie Kirk's death, and the ATF's summary report on the shooting.
Summary
Candace Owens presents a detailed reconstruction of Erica Kirk's movements on the day of the Turning Point USA rally at the University of Georgia, arguing that the Secret Service's public statement — that there was no credible threat — directly contradicts the security justification given for Erica Kirk's last-minute cancellation. Owens contends that Erica was already on the ground in Athens, Georgia, in a Secret Service-secured area, when she pulled out of the event, and that the real reason was low attendance. She also examines Victor Marx, who she says was the first person to publicly announce Charlie Kirk's death — just 50 minutes after the shooting — and highlights text messages she says show Marx was in contact with an Israeli Defense Group regarding a firearms patent deal. Finally, Owens reviews the ATF's summary report on the shooting, arguing it contains no bombshell evidence and that investigators have still not conclusively linked the bullet fragment recovered to Tyler Robinson's rifle. Central to this section is Owens's broader assassination theory, in which she argues that Charlie Kirk was killed with government involvement and that Lance Twiggs is a federal asset who planted Tyler Robinson's gun — a conspiratorial framework she presents as the structuring context for her critique of the ATF report.
Owens also devotes significant time to viewer comments, including an extended discussion of Christian Zionism and her criticism of Ben Shapiro, arguing that many Christians in the American South are awakening to what she sees as a false conflation of biblical Israel with the modern state of Israel. She also raises allegations concerning Dan Flo, Charlie Kirk's security detail, claiming he failed to conduct a proper walkthrough before the shooting and was subsequently offered a bonus and raise by Erica Kirk — which Owens presents as further evidence of suspicious conduct in the aftermath of the shooting.
Key Takeaways
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Secret Service Statement on the UGA Rally Threat
Candace Owens: Could you imagine threats so secret that not even the Secret Service could detect them? Because that's what they're saying. The Secret Service has come out and said, "Nope, Erica's a liar and so is her mama." Okay, basically I'm being a little bit dramatic — they didn't say her mama was a liar, I just added that. But they definitely said she was lying. There's no other way to interpret the statement that they released.
I also think it's interesting that they got a statement out to the press. Victor Marx was, if you did not know this — I mentioned it yesterday — the very first person to announce on social media that Charlie Kirk was dead, in a post that he subsequently deleted. He left it up actually for quite a long time. And given everything that I have learned about him now, the allegations that he is working or was working with Israel, that information suddenly feels very relevant. So we're going to review it.
And lastly, the ATF released their summary — not even really the report — and it's a nothing burger. I want you to know that it is one big nothing burger. Everything else is just noise.
Welcome back to Candace. I had such a laugh earlier because this entire situation at the University of Georgia is objectively hilarious. You kind of just sometimes have to stand back and watch it all and recognize that we are watching a sitcom. Turning Point USA has turned into a sitcom. Somehow Erica really thought that she was just going to get away with saying that there was this very credible threat against her life and nobody would go, "Oh wait — you probably shouldn't say that with the Vice President in the room."
You can't just say stuff. That's one of my phrases — you can't just say stuff. But you definitely shouldn't just say stuff when you have the Vice President of the United States with you. That would actually rise, if there was a credible threat against you, to a national security threat. You're saying my life was at risk — okay, what that means is that the Vice President's life was also at risk. There's no way to actually separate that.
So of course, what naturally followed was that some journalists were alarmed and they reached out to the White House and to the Secret Service for additional information and comment regarding this alleged threat. And here is the headline. This is in Bari Weiss's — CBS, no less. She's got contacts at CBS, and even they had to just run this headline: "Secret Service determines no credible threats to UGA rally after Erica Kirk's cancellation."
The source embedded in the article reads: "The US Secret Service determined there were no credible threats to Tuesday's Turning Point USA rally at the University of Georgia, even as a planned co-appearance by Erica Kirk was canceled over unspecified security concerns." A person familiar with the matter tells CBS News that the site was secure and there were no known threats to the protectee — that would be the VP. Now, while Kirk may have received hostile messages, including on social media, those were not part of any identified or actionable threat stream that was monitored by federal authorities.
And let me interpret that for you. There's literally no way to separate this. When the Vice President is speaking at an event — if he's going to speak and Candace Owens is going to be on stage — the federal authorities are going to be looking online for threats against Candace Owens. They're not going to say, "Oh, well, that person said they're going to kill Candace Owens, but don't worry, VP — they're only going to go after Candace. She's interviewing you on stage, but don't worry about this threat." No. Of course they would also be looking at threats against Turning Point USA and threats directed toward Erica Kirk. And they said this was not happening. There was no actionable threat. A threat against Erica would have been a threat against the VP.
I find it interesting that they decided to speak with CBS — obviously off the record — probably because what Erica said embarrassed them. That would imply that her security team had intel that the Secret Service did not have, and the intel was deemed so credible that they decided she could not do the event — but the Secret Service just decided to press on and allow the VP to proceed. You're basically saying the Secret Service is not good at their job. And they said, "No, actually, we're going to come out and we're going to clarify matters."
This is mortifying for Turning Point USA. This is Erica Kirk girl-bossing a little too close to the sun. She's just been getting away with all these lies, making phone calls, and finally the Secret Service just checked her.
Reconstructing Erica Kirk's Timeline on the Day of the Event
Now it gets even worse, and I am not sure how I completely overlooked this possibility. Actually, I am sure — probably because this option was so nonsensical in my mind that it did not even occur to me to consider it. The idea that Erica could have actually been in Georgia already and that she truly canceled at the last minute after she had already been to the venue — that never even crossed my mind. I assumed wrongly that she must have been in Scottsdale. That's the only way to make the story work. They said somebody was tracking her flight, so obviously in my mind I thought this was a Scottsdale thing — that she had decided not to fly in because of some threat. But ladies and gentlemen, I was wrong. That is not what happened at all.
Gratefully, I watched Baron Coleman's show last night and he offered this option, and then we received a tip that Erica was indeed in Georgia already. And you're not going to believe how this actually went down.
Right at the top, I just want to say that as a society we deserve better scops. This is starting to feel disrespectful. She is all over the place. They are all over the place. And I want to say that the lie that she told here is so big that it is worthy of not just her having to step down, but Andrew Kolvet should frankly also have to resign in shame once I show you how this went down. There's something wrong with both of these people.
So, just so you understand what happens when the Vice President of the United States goes to any town to speak — or the President of the United States goes to speak — at least 48 hours before he arrives, the airports, the venue, everything is going to be swept and secured. People are going to be sent ahead of him. Military personnel are going to be sent ahead of his arrival. They don't figure this out on the day of. They're not just winging it with the number two person in the United States. So on the day of his arrival, they already know how things are going to run, and there's going to be an entire perimeter set up around wherever he's traveling. You're not going to be able to get close to the Vice President when he is traveling.
So in my mind, therefore, there was a 0% chance that Erica had a viable threat pertaining to her travel while she was already in Georgia. I completely said that can't be an option — it had to be in Scottsdale. But that's the story they were trying to sell.
Here's what actually happened on that day. On Saturday evening, Erica Kirk flew into Palm Beach because she was attending Betina's bridal shower, which took place on Sunday. Here are some photos of her on Sunday at Betina's — soon to be Trump's — bridal shower. She's engaged to Don Trump Jr. I instantly assessed that this was taking place on Sunday because Ivanka's there and so is Ivanka's daughter, and they're Orthodox, so it obviously wasn't Saturday. On Monday, Erica elected to stay in Palm Beach. On Tuesday, she flew from West Palm Beach up to Athens, Georgia for her event.
And I want to be clear — she therefore flew into the already Secret Service-secured private airport and terminal, the very same one that the Vice President was due to arrive in. Their story is done right there.
So let's look at the timeline from that day. At 1:27 p.m., Erica departed West Palm Beach for the Georgia event. At 2:40 p.m., Erica landed in Athens, Georgia. At 3:53 p.m., JD Vance's plane begins circling in the air above North Carolina — because this is when he receives the phone call that Erica doesn't want to do the event. I'm going to assume Erica called him personally. He just starts — I don't know if we're going to do this event. He's circling in the air. He gets the phone call. Erica's crashing out. And she's not on the tarmac freaking out and saying there's no safety — the Secret Service is waiting for JD to land. She had already landed. There was nobody at the terminal on her plane waiting to harm her.
JD Vance then lands into Athens at 4:34 p.m. — into the same airport as Erica. There's no threat. Nobody waiting at the airport saying, "Oh, I know you boys are with JD Vance, the Vice President — I'm actually only here for Erica."
At 5:00 p.m., the YRefi guy who's around too much opens the event and pitches YRefi. And it looks very much like he acknowledges Erica on stage and looks to the left. He says her name and says something like, "Thank you, Erica." That signals to me that Erica was just offstage to the left — that's where you would stand. I've done a million events. She was just offstage, probably about to come out and speak. Listen to Lane Shoberger:
Lane Shoberger: "Erica continues to support and inspire us every day to keep pushing forward and fighting for the idea that everyone deserves a path to redemption and prosperity. So Erica, thank you. Thank you for your friendship and believing in YRefi."
I am with Baron on this. She was in the building and she was backstage where people could not see her. And what likely happened was she assessed that people were not showing up and Erica was going into a meltdown. Baron even pointed out that Andrew was dressed way too casually — and Andrew is very metrosexual, he knows how to dress — he was just dressed way too casually to interview JD Vance. This literally all had to happen last second, because Andrew Kolvet does know how to dress appropriately for venues. He would not have been dressed like that to interview the Vice President.
So this last-minute thing was: Erica was already at the venue, she realized nobody was coming, and she wanted to cancel the event. JD's plane is circling at 3:53. He then lands at 4:34. So we're supposed to believe that on the tarmac they just didn't say anything to each other? No. Obviously that didn't happen.
JD Vance says he's going to go through with the event, and the first question Kolvet asks him, he sets him up and says, "Oh, Erica, oh my gosh." And listen to JD Vance say that two hours ago — meaning when his plane started circling — he didn't know if this event was going to happen.
JD Vance: "Well, first of all, I love Erica and I know that she did get some threats. About two hours ago, as you know, Andrew, I was a little worried that we were going to have to cancel the event because Erica was not going to come and she was very worried about it. And I talked to the Secret Service and obviously these guys do a very good job. And I said, you know what? Let's let Erica do what she needs to do for herself and her family."
He's basically saying the Secret Service has no idea what she's talking about. We're good. I don't know what she's having a meltdown about. We've obviously secured everything. And he's like, okay, just let her figure things out.
And I'll tell you what happened. Erica did not leave Athens until 6:39 p.m. She departed Athens and headed back for Scottsdale. So that's a long time that she was there. Erica was there for four hours, and there was, as the Secret Service determined, no credible threat. They would not have ignored a serious threat against Erica Kirk because that would mean there was a serious threat against the Vice President. She was interviewing him. You don't separate that.
Erica Kirk's Pattern of Behavior and the Daily Mail Admission
And what are we to take from this? I just want to be clear, and I will continue to say this: I don't care if I have to be public enemy number one — Erica Kirk is malevolent. She is malevolent. You have to accept that because it's not only that she's capable of lying to us — she does it often. It's the manner in which she does it. There is always a bend toward evil.
Let me explain what I mean. Tons of people lie. There are people who literally have to lie for a living — PR agents, right? They have to sometimes tell us a white lie, and usually it is to afford some protection to their client. We're used to that. "Oh, this artist is being treated in the hospital for exhaustion." Okay, we get it — they probably had an overdose and they're probably headed to rehab. But they're not going to tell us that because is it really our business? Probably not.
But then there are circumstances when artists do something that is wrong and it's in public. Think of when Morgan Wallen, the country star, threw a chair out of a bar window downtown here in Nashville, which unfortunately landed a few feet away from some police officers. He gets arrested. What does he do? He issues a public apology. He said he went to the police station, he wanted to make sure he apologized to everyone, he wasn't happy about what he did. And you know what? The public is actually very forgiving normally. Morgan Wallen gets in trouble — it's almost like a part of his brand. The public is very forgiving when you are honest and you own up to your own crap.
It takes a very different and very specific breed of individual to do something wrong and then to blame the public. To throw a chair out of a bar window and then direct your public relations team to tell the Vice President that you did it because there was an immediate threat to your safety in that bar — and that it's the result of deranged fans online who comment every time you sing a good country song, and you threw that chair because you needed the fastest route to get back to your kids at home. Oh, I'm sorry — now it's our fault that he threw a chair? That's weird. It's a little bit psychopathic.
Only a very specific breed of human could muster the shamelessness that it takes to abandon your public commitment — you committed to being there, you then decided you didn't want to do it, and to be clear, out of an act of vanity — and then rather than owning that, rather than issuing a statement saying, "Something came up, I'll explain in a couple of days," she directs her PR team to not just make up a lie, but to create an existential threat to her life, which will ultimately assign blame on the public. "You guys failed to protect me — that's why I'm not here tonight." That's vicious. That's malevolence.
I continue to underscore what Elizabeth Lane, the reporter, stated in her post — that in her opinion, Erica Kirk exhibits the attributes of a psychopath. That's psychopathic thinking, to turn it around on other people because you made a decision.
And by the way, I want to be clear — I'm now of a different opinion as to why JD Vance came out of the gates with all that energy, fired up about how she was being treated. I have no proof of this, I'm going to speculate here, but I do know that when Erica did not want people to show up to the Catholics for Catholics event because I was speaking there — we weren't speaking about her, we weren't speaking about politics, it was literally a prayer — she made personal phone calls and she cried on the phone.
JD Vance's energy is giving that Erica cried on the phone. I think that when JD Vance's plane was circling, of course Erica would have called him directly. She would not have done that via a third party out of respect. I think she was on the phone with him. She cried. His energy is like the male instinct to protect a woman in distress. Like, "She's a female, she's just scared, and I'm looking online and people are saying they want me to die, and I'm just so overwhelmed right now, Mr. Vice President. I'm just so overwhelmed." No tears. "And my kids — I just don't want my kids to be orphans, Mr. Vice President." And he was probably like, "Oh my God." That's what I think went down. That is the energy he is giving — like, "Oh my gosh, I feel so bad, I need to protect this injured bird."
And the reality is that Erica just saw the crowd, she didn't want to speak, she dealt with JD, and then she directed Andrew to make up a sinister lie. I think JD on the phone probably tried to assure her the Secret Service had already swept everything and they were going to be fine, and then she did something along the lines of, "I can't — I'm sorry — my family." And he was completely understanding, because why wouldn't he be? She's dropping lines like, "I don't want my kids to be orphans," which is what he implies on stage — that the Secret Service had things under control but that he understood she needed to do what was right for her family.
That's my best read on the situation. I think Erica is calculated, and I want to say to JD Vance: you better wake up fast. That's a black widow, my friend. You will get bit, and you should probably consult your wife on this matter. Women understand these things better. We know what women are capable of. Men, it's good to have that built into you — that instinct to want to defend a woman who is crying. But let me tell you, there are some women who are crying who will take you down in the end.
I've got to give credit to the Secret Service for coming out and leaking to the press that she lied. That is humiliating for JD because he was manipulated. But it also represents a PR crisis of epic proportions for Erica. Make no mistake.
And I think it is obvious that they got some crisis PR person in, and Andrew was sort of made to step aside, because what an idiot for not thinking that would backfire when you loop in the executive office into this absurdity. It looks like they hired someone probably in the last 24 hours, judging by this article that I just read, which I'm going to show you — because this is the first time that the PR was kind of good here. For the first time ever, Turning Point did not gaslight the public. So whoever they brought in — they brought in a woman — and she's like, "Just stop with the BS. No one believes this."
And in the article — get ready — for the first time, they're going to admit that Erica may have done some things that are wrong. It's mind-blowing. I couldn't believe the words I was reading, especially because the Daily Mail is one of their favorite rags that just does all of their bidding and pretends that everything they say is right.
It says TPUSA cited concerns over serious threats to her safety, but insiders say that is not the full story. Kirk has faced criticism from some online commentators who felt that her return to public life after Charlie's death was too swift, or that her appearances struck the wrong tone. A close confidant told the Daily Mail: "She is aware of how she is coming across. She's not stupid. She has seen the online comments. She gets it. It hurts." Last month, the backlash reached a new level after a viral video by comedian Duski mocked Kirk's behavior after her husband's killing, featuring exaggerated expressions and fake tears. The insider continued: "The Duski video showed her what people thought of her. She's really hurt that people are feeling this way about her, that they're mocking her. She pulled out of the TPUSA event because of a bunch of factors. I don't think it was just security concerns."
The source said, "If there were security concerns, the Vice President wouldn't have gone." That's the closest we're going to get to her admitting that they lied and that actually she was embarrassed and that's why she pulled out. I was mind-blown by that.
And then it goes on — by the way, they can never mention me without insulting me in the same sentence, even when they're admitting I was right. It says, "Far-right commentator Candace Owens, who has peddled outlandish conspiracy theories about Charlie's death, suggested that Kirk's no-show was due to low ticket sales." But the insider added: "It wasn't just the ticket sales either. It was also mental exhaustion — like, nothing I do will be right and people will make fun of me — so she canceled."
Okay, so it was because there were low ticket numbers and she thought she would be made fun of. The writer also recaps that in the weeks following Charlie's assassination, she returned to the public eye, appearing at events and speaking engagements despite her grief. Critics claimed that her behavior came across as performative or unnatural. And the insider says: "She says that she was putting on a face, a brave face, and that's why she was doing what she was doing. I agree that it was a bad look. Everyone told her it was a bad look, but she did it anyway. I know she's mourning Charlie. We all are, but she just has a funny way of showing it. Do I think she's mourning enough? That's not for me to say. But do I think she's coming across badly? Yes. That much is obvious. And finally, she's starting to see how weird it all looked."
That's a good thing. I read this and I went, "Wow." They hired somebody who is not Andrew Kolvet, and they are copping to the fact that they have been gaslighting us, and that Erica has been weird, and that everything that they have done has been wrong, and that they are telling us absurd lies and we are catching them in the lies. Andrew Kolvet should have to apologize. He should apologize to the Vice President.
This feels like a win. We've got to take it where we can get it. At long last, someone said it's not working and we need to pivot. And that's because we have kept up the pressure and we have clocked them on every single lie. I'm at the point right now where I want Erica to just drop a book — like If I Did It, you know, like OJ did. If I Did It by Erica Kirk. I think that would move more copies than the book about Shabbat.
Victor Marx: First to Announce Charlie Kirk's Death
Anyway, switching gears to her dear friend Victor Marx, because we now have proof that he did indeed announce that Charlie Kirk had died first — to the world first, I should say. And it's very interesting, given everything we've just learned about him. You wonder where he got that information. It's at least relevant enough to plot on our timeline.
Victor Marx was the first person who announced that Charlie had gone to heaven — that's what he said. I'm going to show you that post right here. The person who sent this to us sent it in Eastern Standard Time. Fortunately, they had it screenshotted. Their buddy had sent it to them and it showed us the timeline. It says: "Victor Marx wrote, 'Pray for Erica and their two little children who need the prayers now that Charlie is in heaven. The shooter is in custody.'" And he did a video and he announced that Charlie had died.
People in the comments were like, "But Glenn Beck posted he's stable. This is not confirmed. Who confirmed this? I haven't seen anything posted that he passed." I remember this happening on the day. I certainly remember that Victor Marx was the first person to say that Charlie had died.
And you should know — he posted that information at 1:13 p.m. Utah time, Mountain Standard. That is less than an hour after Charlie was shot. Erica Kirk's dear friend Victor Marx announced that he had died. That's just 50 minutes after Charlie was shot. Who told him? I feel like that is early. And we should plot that on our minute-by-minute timeline from September 10th and see where that falls exactly, because it's almost like he knew at the same time as Erica.
It's kind of like how Bibi knew a little too soon that he had been shot — commented too soon, just before the President of the United States. And Victor Marx put that video up at 1:13 p.m. That should be around when Erica found out, when she got off the phone with the doctor. The public didn't officially find out until President Trump announced it at 2:40 p.m. on X — again, all in Mountain time. So yeah, he beat him by an hour and 27 minutes. That's weird. I think it's weird.
Victor Marx as a Licensed Firearms Dealer
Baron Coleman also did some digging and determined that Victor Marx is a licensed firearms dealer. Another brilliant find. Take a listen.
Baron Coleman: "Candace made an interesting observation — that this guy likes to buy a lot of guns, and what does he do with them? Like, how does a private citizen buy 50 guns at a time? And so we went looking, and what we found is he has a Class 1 FFL. Lots of websites — you can look this up. This is one that we were able to redact his personal information out of. You will find the Class 1 designation on some of the other websites, but trust me, if you look him up — the Victor Marx Group LLC, Colorado Springs, where he lives — you will find he has an FFL Class 1 license. What that means is he is a licensed firearm dealer. Now, I don't know about your preachers. I've had a few over my years. I don't believe any of them have been licensed firearms dealers. I've had a lot of political candidates that I've been around. I don't remember any of them being licensed firearm dealers."
Sure is interesting. I can tell you that Victor Marx still has not answered my messages. Despite doing the rounds in the press almost immediately, he is claiming that he is willing to sit down with me, but he's got some conditions. One of the conditions is that he wants to be able to bring his wife Eileen, but he does not want Corby Hall to be present — the person whose letter I read. That's very relevant. Corby Hall is the person who had the experience with Victor wanting weapons in Haiti when he advised against it. It would just make sense that Corby Hall should be here, because I did not transact with Victor Marx for weapons in Haiti with Jimmy Barbecue.
I've got to tell you, I'm a gut player, and just listening to Victor Marx's explanation regarding his dealings with Corby Hall did not ring true to me. I want you to listen to him explain. He admits that he threatened to beat Corby Hall up, but he gives an excuse for why he did that. Let me know if his excuse passes the sniff test for you.
Victor Marx: "The one thing he said that is true is I did say I would whoop his ass."
Interviewer: "And what was the context of that?"
Victor Marx: "He was super depressed, having troubles, and we got him here. I was walking around our training facility for hours, just walking and walking, and he started making weird threatening innuendos. I ended up taking him into the training center and teaching him how to punch because he said, 'I've never fought anybody. I feel like a coward.' I said, 'Well, you just need to learn how to do some basics.' So I'm working on a bag with him to try to build up his confidence. It didn't last, though."
So just to be clear — that little edit we did there — he's talking about the same day. To recap: Corby Hall came, and Corby was like, "I'm depressed," and he was like, "Well, I'm going to whoop your ass." And then they stare at each other, and then they do some more walking around the compound, and he implies that Corby said something with innuendo. I don't know what that means, given the fact that he then in the next breath says that Corby Hall had never fought — and so he then took him to learn how to throw a punch.
I just don't feel like somebody would go to someone's property who is a gun enthusiast and a registered arms dealer and would just start a fight not even knowing how to throw a punch. But that's what he wants us to believe — that Corby was surrounded by military men on a massive private property belonging to a licensed firearm dealer, and thought it was a good idea to threaten the property owner who has security all around. And then they were just like, "Did we just become best friends? Yeah, let's learn how to fight." No. I don't know.
Victor Marx, the IDF, and the Corby Hall Text Messages
Elsewhere in this interview, he's asked directly about trafficking arms. Here is what he was asked and how he answered.
Interviewer: "One of the primary accusations he has against you is that you are seeking to traffic rifles to Haiti, Israel, and possibly Iran. Have you ever sought to traffic rifles, arms of any kind, to those countries?"
Victor Marx: "Of course not. It's illegal. How would I even be where I am today, for years of working with federal, state, and local authorities? That's something that he has dreamed up, I guess. But it's real simple — when people bring allegations against you, I'm not one that has to defend it. They have to prove allegations or they're discredited, because everybody now uses those words where you can't be sued for slander, liability, all that. So it's silly and it's sad."
So just to clarify: Corby asserted that Victor Marx wanted guns sold in Israel. He never said anything about it being an illegal transaction. He asserted that the Haitian arms deal would have been illegal, since you were not allowed to do those sorts of transactions with Haiti — federally, you can't do that. So he cautioned and declined, and cautioned Victor Marx against it.
He also — and I'm speaking about Corby — submitted to me some text messages which certainly go some way toward proving that Victor Marx was at the very least in communication with Israel to purchase guns, or rather to purchase the patent for his business — the full AR — on behalf of the IDF. So I'm going to read these messages, and again, I'm happy to have Victor Marx on the show to sit down and dispute them and say they're inauthentic. But here they are.
Victor Marx wrote: "I've tried to help you in three specific areas: your personal walk, your marriage, and your business. I'm still willing to help put a deal in front of you, but this is my name, my reputation, and my relationships that are on the line. The Israeli Defense Group we are connected with is ready to review the patent and possible deal." Okay, so he's connected to an Israeli Defense Group. These messages are real. "You don't know all of who I am, and that's fine. I'd like to know all of who you are. I think the state of Colorado might want to know all of who you are."
He continues: "But understand this — just last night, a company that I'm part owner of got awarded a major SOCOM contract for highly specialized work. So I am telling you, God is moving, but he's not obligated to bless you just because you're talented or wounded. His grace is a gift, and he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble."
And in response, this is what Corby wrote: "Why so much focus on the IDF and not as much on domestic schools? One to fund the other, question mark? Otherwise it just doesn't make sense. God did not have me design this for war. If he did, then it is for after schools are made the primary focus, and we have only covered less than 10%. The IDF is not going to be using this for protection of children as a primary concern. Are they putting men in their schools with it? Correct me if I am completely wrong. I would hate to send a thousand units to the IDF and have an unprotected school get shot up here."
Which actually brings up a good point — can Israel guarantee to put one or two in each of its schools along with a military order? So this is exactly what he said with what we read — he wanted to make sure the primary focus was going to be schools, and that Victor Marx did not like that and started using God and timing and that to manipulate him.
And Victor Marx replies: "I'm glad you received my words. Let's see if you apply them. Corby, focused — you won't be sending a thousand units to anyone in the IDF. You will get a paycheck for the patent and possibly your company, and then on to your next adventure." So he's basically saying they're just going to buy it. They're going to buy you out. You don't have to sell anything to them because they just want your patented four-fold AR.
So yes, if these messages are from him — and I'm happy to have him dispute it — I certainly don't think Corby made these up last night. And I believe this conversation took place sometime in April. In April, he's transacting on behalf of the IDF. Is there another way to interpret that? Like, they want your patent so that they can go do what? Are they known for anything good when it comes to schools?
That conversation took place in April of 2025. I am happy — just to be clear — to have Victor on with his wife if he'd like to have her. I have no problem with that. But we will need him to agree to sit down with Corby Hall, because Corby sent me a ton of messages and I would like to begin to sort through them. Otherwise, I am happy to have just Victor on my show alone, one-on-one, if he would like to join me virtually, to more generally discuss his life and how he became so close with Erica Kirk, and how he knew — initially, before anybody else, virtually at the same time as Erica Kirk — that Charlie Kirk had died. He knew before me. I'll leave it at that.
Robert Maxwell, Bain Capital, and the Epstein Web
By the way, before we get into this ATF report, something I forgot to mention is that we found out that Robert Maxwell — yes, Ghislaine Maxwell's father — if the former Mossad agent is to be believed, he's the one who brought Epstein together with Ghislaine and got him involved in arms trafficking first. People forget this little tidbit. But also Victor Ostrovsky said the same thing — Epstein was initially brought in regarding the Iran-Contra deal in the 1980s. That is what he was brought in to do with Israel, dealing with Adnan Khashoggi. Initially that was what he was brought in to do. It got turned into a blackmail ring. The Mossad agent who tells the story — there are clips of him — says that he thought Jeffrey Epstein was an idiot and they found more use for him blackmailing politicians, but originally it was arms trafficking.
I'm bringing this up because something I forgot to mention is that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, was one of the early investors in Bain Capital — Mitt Romney's company. Who knew what a tangled web we weave? The company was started with seed money from Ghislaine's dad. And then he's best friends at this time with Netanyahu. Mitt Romney — they're at Boston Consulting Group, they're having trouble raising money for Bain Capital. Apparently the Los Angeles Times did a piece uncovering this back in 2012 when Mitt Romney was running. They learned that he was struggling to raise the initial $37 million they wanted for their fund. So they turned to foreign investors, and Robert Maxwell gave him $2 million out of the $37 million, as well as some other foreign, shady investors.
Yeah, that's fascinating. A tangled web we weave. Eventually I think we're going to need to put together a column of people that seem to just be one degree away from Jeffrey Epstein on our spreadsheet. That column might become necessary because it just keeps coming up as a recurring theme.
The ATF Summary Report: Analysis
Candace Owens: Anyway, regarding the ATF — the ATF summary has been released. They're trying to make it seem like there's something in there that's big or explosive. It's not. It's non-explosive. That's one of the things I just keep saying and I want to keep repeating so that you get this through your mind: they have not yet proven that Tyler Robinson's weapon was even fired on September 10th. That's nowhere in there.
The first thing you would do if you were brought into the police is they would conduct that basic test to see if you had gun residue on you. They would also test the weapon. Bomb dogs were brought in. They did not find that weapon as recently fired — which means it was not recently fired. Neither the bomb dogs nor the canines were able to determine that. So that's a major problem here.
From the beginning I've been saying they are not going to be able to connect this gun. My belief of what happened is that Lance Twiggs is way more involved. I believe he's a federal asset. I believe that as Tyler Robinson's roommate, he got Tyler Robinson's gun and Tyler Robinson's casings at an earlier time, and then that was dropped off at some point — maybe the day before or on September 10th — and then it was found. And that's why the bomb dogs couldn't find it, because it was not recently fired. They can, I believe, smell gun residue even if it rains — they could still smell it up to seven days after the weapon is fired. They did not find it, so it was not fired.
And so they've released this ATF summary. The press is doing what they're doing because they've been trying to slant this case in favor of the prosecution, pretending there's some bombshell in it. Just know that there is not a bombshell. It's getting no traction.
We can pull this up very quickly and it basically verifies exactly what the defense laid out in their filing — that all they got was this summary report, and it told you what they took a look at. They determined that the cartridge case matched the gun. Okay, we knew that. I was never under any illusions that this was not going to be Tyler Robinson's gun. I knew it was Tyler Robinson's gun. I knew it had his prints on it — and it also had six sets of other prints. Whose prints are those? Who are the other five sets of prints on that gun? That would be an interesting thing for us to learn.
And so it basically says, "Yeah, the cartridges match the gun." That's all happening not inside of Charlie's body. And then it tells us that the bullet jacket fragment could not be identified or excluded as having been fired from the exhibit one rifle, based on an agreement of all discernible class characteristics. And so now they are alleging that they are going to look into the matter a different way — they're going to use microscopic comparison.
Just in time for me to get a microscope for my birthday, because I promise you I will do tests. However they say they are conducting this, if they say it works, I will make sure that I get into the backyard and make sure that is actually a manner that can be done. I am going to become an expert at microscopes overnight. I promise you, because this all now is beginning to look as it always has looked — like funny business. They are just trying to make this fit. They are corrupt. They know they don't have a case. They want to bring back old FBI tactics that were first put in place after JFK was shot, because they lied about that as well. And this is all that over again.
He was assassinated. I believe our government was involved. I believe foreign governments were involved as well — that this hit was allowed to go through and that Charlie Kirk was removed as a barrier to the Iranian war. That is my opinion based on everything that I have looked at. And many people are now engaged in a cover-up. I also believe that they're all going to get caught. So there is that happy, optimistic message.
Viewer Comments and Closing Thoughts
Candace Owens: Top comment from yesterday's episode: "Where was all of this amazing security when Charlie said they're going to kill me?" They were receiving his messages. Dan Flo was receiving his messages. And then after he failed to protect Charlie — didn't even, as I am told from our sources, do a walkthrough — all he cared about in the lead-up to that was ensuring that they had a clean exit behind Charlie. They ignored the security concerns that were expressed by the school, that they shouldn't do this in an uncontrolled traffic area. They put him there like a sitting duck. They got him out of there fast. And then after that, what do we know? Dan Flo gets offered a bonus and a raise from Erica. Totally normal. Maybe you should add that to the Daily Mail article. Not the most normal thing to do, actually. You got one job and you failed it. You don't offer that person a promotion. But you did.
Robert Madden wrote: "The only threat she should worry about is the truth coming out." That is correct.
I have to show you this tweet. This took me out when I saw it. This person Zach wrote: "I interviewed the chair sending Erica death threats and this is what it had to say." I just love the internet. The internet is always here for a good time.
Okay, let's read some of your comments from today's episode. Nikki Schumacher writes: "As a reformed Baptist in the deep south, I have started worshiping with the Presbyterians because I just can't with the false gospel of 'Israel is God's bride.' It is just so obvious that it is a heresy, more obvious than it's ever been — them constantly using Bible verses to tell you why it's totally fine for Israel to just incessantly murder children, just to incessantly steal."
And I think across the board, I find Christian Zionists to be worse than the radical Zionists that are in Israel. I really do, because there's something especially gross about doing it while wearing a veneer of Christianity. You can almost understand it for a lot of Jewish Americans — in the same way, I always say, like we were raised as Black Americans and you're learning about slavery, and that's going to be your scariest point of historical reference in school. You can understand how a Jewish Zionist could fall into that trap. And a lot of them are now waking up. The scales are falling from their eyes. They are not with Bibi Netanyahu. Look at the polls. Jewish Americans are realizing he's just a mass murderer. He's literally Jeffrey Dahmer. He probably — that's it. He just goes, but calls himself prime minister. Prime Minister Jeffrey Dahmer. And then you have a bunch of people trying to tell you why it's biblical what he's doing — constantly harming children, excusing the rape of prisoners who haven't even had any trials, who are literally just being held because they're Palestinian.
I totally agree that there's just an awakening happening all across. And you can see that in the numbers. People are leaving a lot of these deep south Baptist churches because they realize they're not worshiping anything but the modern state of Israel, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Israel of the Bible.
Biggie Kels writes: "Erica canceled her fake and gay appearance because the true threat was Duski showing up and outperforming her." It's actually funny because Baron clocked that on his show last night. He was like, "I think she canceled the appearance because of Duski — because now everyone is like, 'This is what the world thinks of you.'" And she couldn't show her face. And she should have just said that, or she should have said nothing. You are allowed to say nothing. You are allowed to say, "Something came up. There'll be more information in the coming days. Erica's not going to be here tonight." That's it. But instead, Andrew came out there with the energy of "it's your fault." And he should apologize, but he won't, because he has exercised no humility in anything since September 10th. It's probably who he always was, if we're being frank.
James the Least writes: "I saw Ben Shapiro blaming you and your viewers for the threats against Erica. What a tool." Why are you watching Ben Shapiro? This is the guy that sits down with Bibi Netanyahu and then tells us that Theo Von is a threat to civilization. He literally interviews mass murderers like Zelensky on his show and he's like, "These people are great. What we really need to do is deal with Theo Von, who's the happiest, kindest person." Theo Von is essentially the class clown. Loves everybody, left and right. Makes everybody laugh and feel good. And Ben Shapiro, of course, could find a problem with Theo Von because since the time he was a kid, nobody has ever liked Ben Shapiro. And the world's caught on. He's been buying views throughout his entire life. He wants popularity. He's never going to have it because of who he is as a person. It's who he is. His ideas suck too, but it's truly just how he deals with people and how he problematizes people for having a heart — which is what Theo Von has. That's what he hates about Theo Von. He wants him canceled. It's just unbelievable.
Tim Morgan writes — oh, the most credible threat to Erica and her crew is the truth.
Seven Sheets writes: "If I am to believe the truth always wins — of which I am not fully convinced, but I must support the ones that I feel are searching for the truth — brave and undeniably fierce work, Candace. Prayers and faith to cover us all." You have to believe. I'm telling you, in the end, truth does win. I just know it. I can't explain it. You can see it because they're just too radical. There's no strategy anymore. They're coming undone. And yes, there is a threat in their desperation — they're chaotic. It's not moving like it used to move, where they were trying to make friends. They don't care anymore. They're taking shots at Theo Von, which is just dumb. Objectively, on its face, it's dumb. You have to be appealing. You have to have people like you. You can't just make enemies with everybody. Your argument can't just be, "Well, we have power and we're willing to cancel people for not agreeing with us." But I sense in that a certain desperation, which certainly means that truth is winning. So we have to be the happy people — the people that are laughing — and just commit ourselves to constantly telling the truth and getting around their cancel culture, if you will.
Miss Moxy writes: "I need you to listen to the song 'Good Citizen' by May. I feel like you wrote the lyrics for her. We love you, Candace. God bless you and keep you in God's work. We are your army standing behind you always." Thank you. We, not me.
84 writes: "Maybe it wasn't 100% vanity and maybe it was a bit more nefarious. The donors have clearly chosen Rubio for 2028. Maybe this was part of the ongoing humiliation ritual of JD." I saw — I follow Mel on X, "Village Crazy Lady" is her handle — and she thinks that they were trying to make JD Vance look bad. I certainly do think that Erica will dump him without question. She will just completely do that because she wants access and proximity to power. The way that she's traveling around, it's just unbelievable.
But I do truly believe it was the ticket sales last night, because she went in. If they were setting him up, she wouldn't have even got on the plane. I think she went there, they thought they were going to be able to last-minute sell a bunch of tickets, they couldn't do it, they were probably having those students running around saying, "We'll pay you to be there," and at that point she was humiliated and decided she didn't want to show her face.
And JD Vance did what honestly Charlie would have done. That is the difference — Charlie had character. Charlie could admit when he failed, when something didn't work, and then he would have been scribbling on a notepad: "Here's what we need to do next to avoid this. Here's how we could have been better. How can we be faster, better, stronger? What can we do differently?" And that demonstrates that he was a natural-born leader. And Erica is not a natural-born leader. She's ambitious as all hell and she has an idea of where she'd like to be, but she has no idea what it takes to get there. She's never demonstrated a capability to build something on her own and sustain it. And that might be harsh, but it's reality. That's the truth.