Candace Owens presents new information on Ben Shapiro's whereabouts when Charlie Kirk was shot, plus text messages showing her close relationship with Kirk
Candace Owens hosts a solo episode of her podcast presenting alleged new details about who Ben Shapiro was with on September 10th when Charlie Kirk was shot, along with previously unseen text messages between herself and Kirk.
Summary
The episode opens with an extended metaphor about parasites to frame the host's characterization of Ben Shapiro, drawing on Steve Bannon's comments about Shapiro attempting to take over Breitbart and other conservative organizations. She then presents text messages between herself and Charlie Kirk from November 2023, showing Kirk actively supporting her during the "Christ is King" controversy and describing coordinated pressure from pro-Israel donors — directly contradicting claims by Turning Point USA's Andrew Kolvet that Kirk and Owens were not close.
The central revelation of the episode is that Owens' team has identified a man named Gary Javich — executive director of B'nai B'rith International and a prominent AIPAC figure in Omaha, Nebraska — as the person allegedly with Ben Shapiro when Kirk was shot, based on Javich reportedly telling others he was with Shapiro at the time. Owens also addresses a planted media story she attributes to Tracy Martin, a family friend of Erika Kirk.
Owens announces a $25,000 bounty mid-episode for information about who in Kirk's car was communicating with Shapiro's security team during the critical minutes Kirk was dying. She closes the episode reading and responding to viewer comments.
A viewer YouTube comment raises the case of Stephen "tWitch" Boss, DJ on the Ellen DeGeneres show, whose 2022 death drew comparisons to the Kirk situation. Owens reads the comment and discusses the case, noting similarities including NDAs required of family members to attend the memorial, a widow who quickly published a book, posthumous claims of secret addiction with no drugs found in the autopsy, and family members being cut off from grandchildren.
Key Takeaways
FULL TRANSCRIPT
Opening: The Parasite Metaphor
Candace Owens: I want to talk about parasites because they are fascinating little organisms. They're creepy, but they are fascinating — in part because their survival depends on feeding off of a host and causing it harm. Really think about that existence: not being able to live unless you are causing destruction.
I'm one of those people who really loved watching Animal Planet and Discovery growing up, and I still do. What's especially interesting about parasites is the manner in which they infect their hosts. As you probably know, there are many different kinds of mind-controlling parasites. Literally, they infect the mind of healthy organisms and they pervert their worldview, causing the host to do things that are ultimately harmful to — and sometimes plainly suicidal to — themselves.
Ants, as just one example, can have their minds invaded by parasites that convince the ants to climb up onto grass blades and to position themselves to be eaten by predators. Think about that. They become actual zombie ants. And you've also maybe heard the same thing regarding the parasite that house cats carry. If you're a woman and you're pregnant, they always warn you about Toxoplasma gondii — T. gondii for short — because if humans are overexposed to it, they can become convinced, I'm not kidding, that they are in love with their cats. There have been cases where people have wanted to quit their jobs and stay home with their cats, and the doctor has to let them know: you're actually carrying a parasite. That's actually one of the components of how cats are able to catch mice — they're able to convince the mice that they're safe, that they're in love with them. It's totally bizarre and wacky. You should read up on it. If you're like me, you'll be very interested.
Then there are the type of parasites that, rather than taking over the mind of the host, take over the tongue. I'm not kidding. They are called tongue-snatching isopods. They can invade a fish through its gills and attach to the base of its tongue until they take it over completely, replace the tongue of their host and control the organ entirely. Which is crazy to think about — a parasite just controlling your tongue.
And it's astonishing to me that there are entire groups of people, human beings, who emulate this exact behavior. I always look at people and think: what animal in the kingdom are you? Sometimes you come across an insect. And there are these people who seek to control and dominate what other people think — just like a parasite — what other people say — just like a parasite — who invade, very much like parasites, in this sort of effort to drive people crazy. They behave as though they're going to die unless they can infect others.
I've come across these people a lot in the last three years, and sometimes I think: could you just move on? Is it cool if I just disagree with you on that topic? Can I think my own thoughts? And I feel like their response is: no, I will die if you do that. I have to keep focusing on this and trying to weigh you down.
That obviously has been my experience in recent years with Zionists. They just cannot let it go. But there is also a spiritual component to it as well. We showed you yesterday Canaanites — literal Baal worshippers — modeling themselves after Nimrod, meaning that they are permanently at war with the creator. There is a damnation to being at war with the creator. It means that you can't create. If you give yourself over to these sorts of demons, you can no longer create. You don't have a way back to the source. So you have to model yourself after a parasite. You have to steal. You have to deceive. You have to manipulate. You have to entrap people via contracts — entrap people who do have the creative force, because you can't produce that within yourself.
Charlie Kirk had the creative force within him. You could see that — the lightness in his eyes, the joy. He's a happy warrior. He wanted to build, not destroy. Michael Jackson had that creative spark. Justin Bieber, I will say, finally looks like he has his creative spark back. He simplified things after breaking free from contracts that were costing him his soul. That's the moment that we're in right now in society. I really believe that.
EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros as a Parasite: Steve Bannon's Warning
On a personal level, I have told you guys over and over again, and I will stand by this fact, that EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros behaves like a parasite. It's just a fact. If you just look at his history, it has been my experience with him. And I am not the only one.
Steve Bannon, the once executive chairman of Breitbart News — Ben's former employer — explained how, after Andrew Breitbart died young and under very suspicious circumstances, Ben attempted to take over Andrew's company. And when that failed, he plotted to take down the company. Because why can't he have it? Doesn't matter if he built it — it should be his. So take a listen to what Steve Bannon said at AmFest last December about Ben.
Steve Bannon: "EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros is like a cancer, and that cancer spreads. It's a cancer and it metastasizes. He tried to take over Breitbart and I ran him out of there. He tried to take over David Horowitz's — who was his mentor. Don't ask me. Ask the guys associated with David Horowitz what he did there. He tried to take that over. And mark my words, he will make a move on Turning Point because he's always been envious of Charlie Kirk."
Candace Owens: I've marked those words. And what has become alarming is that Ben fixates. He does. He fixates. He cannot move on. He was fixated on Charlie Kirk all throughout his career. He is similarly fixated on Tucker Carlson. I mean, I worked at the Daily Wire, and it was totally bizarre to me how focused the executives were on Tucker — like they were in some competition. Tucker never spoke about Ben, and yet it was constantly this topic.
Ben tried to stop Charlie's rise. I have said that repeatedly, and he gave him trouble all throughout his career. That is a fact. Charlie first thought he looked up to Ben, and then in 2018, as soon as Ben got envious — exactly what Bannon is referring to — it switched, and he began doing the stuff that he does behind the scenes. Because he just thinks it's supposed to be his, and he's looking for a host.
Text Messages: Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens in November 2023
Now I have tried to execute, believe it or not, a lot of restraint in sharing things that I know, and it has been very difficult for me to straddle knowing the things that I know about Charlie and his shifting opinions — and what began the shift in those opinions — and then having to watch at the same time the very people that he was fighting toward the end of his life lie, just lie, without any recourse, like they don't have souls.
The most shocking has been Andrew Kolvet. His attempts to pretend that Charlie and I were never friends, that Charlie and I had some imaginary falling out and we just did not have each other's backs since 2019. Worst of all, I think, is him inverting reality and claiming that Charlie and Ben were friends. I want to be very clear: that is diabolical. I actually was sitting in Spain next to Carrie Patel and I was just showing her all of these messages, and her jaw was on the floor. She was like, "I can't even believe this," because we were watching Andrew tweet this narrative that Candace wasn't friends with Charlie and Ben was.
Charlie was the single person — just so you guys know — who provided me with the most emotional support when the Zionist thugs came for me. That began, as you guys know, in earnest at the end of 2023 with the "Christ is King" scandal, then me getting fired. Charlie talked me through all of that. He kept me clear-minded and focused, told me how I should react. And I believe that the treatment of me — which he predicted and told me what was going to happen next — served as a major point of him recognizing what he and I had suddenly arrived at, where people were trying to control us. And at the same time, because this was post-October 7th, of course, where the thugs just started thugging a bit harder and demanding that people say what they were supposed to say — or else — they also attacked Charlie and called him anti-Semitic.
So I'm going to show you this text message thread now. Andrew Kolvet is out the gate saying Charlie was terrified of me and we weren't friends since 2019 and he was just mad at Jeremy about our relationship. I'm going to show you a snippet of our thread — this one dated November 15th, 2023, when EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros began his attacks against me — and you are going to be able to judge for yourself what kind of relationship we had.
Shockingly, just to be clear, I was working for EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros — who is a part owner of the Daily Wire — for that company when this was going down. And it was obvious that there was a coordinated effort from the inside, post-October 7th, to begin privately pressuring and smearing anybody who wasn't repeating the narrative that Israel were the only victims, that everything began on October 7th, and that they had a right to do whatever they wanted.
This is the beginning of the infamous "Christ is King and genocide is always wrong" scandal, when they started swarming. That's the only way I can describe it — it's a swarm infestation. So here are the messages.
Charlie sent me his tweet defending me: "I am genuinely confused why asking questions and quoting Bible verses about peace warrants a call to resign from the Daily Wire. There should be more room in the conservative movement for disagreement. We can do better than this."
Charlie then wrote to me: "Don't resign, because it's what they want."
I said: "I won't. I know."
Charlie wrote: "Jeremy Boring — he knew exactly what Jeremy was — 100% workshopped this. This is not Ben acting alone. This is a hit."
I said: "I believe it. I believe that 100%. Also, they are idiots."
Charlie then came back and said: "This is a sealed hit against you because they think they can provoke you." Which was what was happening — they were trying to provoke me to quit.
I wrote back: "Yes."
And he said: "That's why this is all coordinated."
I came back and said: "Also, Marissa" — and I was referring to Marissa Streit of PragerU — "is involved. I suspect they always send her out last to talk sense to me."
He said: "They want you to do a video. Oh my god. I'm out. I'm not going to work for him."
I said: "I believe it."
He said: "Marissa Streit — she's part of the tribe. Do not listen to her."
I said: "I know she is. I always know when they roll her out, it's like programming." And this time I stood up to her. Did not apologize for saying genocide is always wrong.
Charlie said: "Good." He continues: "I've told all the Jews recently to go to hell who try and tell me to stop."
I said: "It's unreal. It's an implicit threat."
He said: "Did the flight work out?" — okay, I was 40 weeks pregnant. He was helping me find a plane last second. And I said: "By the way, you are featured in my Tucker interview that just dropped. I defended you hardcore. I forgot to mention that — he just dropped it."
And he said: "Thank you. We are on the same team. Screw these people."
And I said: "Around the 20-minute mark."
And he said: "Thank you for doing that. I really appreciate it. Very few of us are willing to stand up to the cabal right now."
I said: "Thank you so much for having my back. You know I have yours. I'm really so disgusted by what they did to you. Years of service to the pro-Israel cause and no one cares — treating you like you are only as good as what you can do for them. The plane worked out great today. Thank you so much. It made all the difference — this pregnant, lol. I'm literally 40 weeks."
And he wrote: "Absolutely. We are on the same team. People are waking up and it is finally happening." He continued: "It is so transactional. I am repulsed by it. For years I was called a Jewish shill and now they say I am a Hamas agent. Screw them. The game has changed."
So that's a snippet into what began — conversations between me and Charlie over the course of, well, I guess only a year and a half later he would be dead. Just over a year and a half later he would be murdered. About Zionism and how they were moving in on speech, how they were bullying us. We have conversations about Seth Dylan, all the players who were involved and trying to gaslight us by name-calling us, and very clearly coordinating with one another.
And I've always told you guys the truth from the beginning. After that, when I got fired, you can go watch the clips of Charlie saying, "We have her back. We're on her side." Those conversations were happening again. He was telling me what the best moves were to make, providing advice and guidance as he always did. When I went and spoke at YWLS, he and I sat in a room and chatted about what was happening behind the scenes at the Daily Wire, what they were doing legally speaking. I opened up to him about that. I believe Andrew Kolvet was actually present for that discussion, if I recall, before I went on stage.
And so then I was told through messages — actually text messages that I have with Andrew — that EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros was squeezing their donors and trying to get them to say that I couldn't speak at AmFest at the end of 2024. And I said, "Charlie, I don't even care about that. Don't let them. I know you're under attack. I don't care about any of that. Literally, I'm under so much pressure right now. I have to now rebuild my podcast. Who cares? Let's take a beat."
I'm sharing this with you because I want you to really imagine not just my shock, but also my internal — and what will now be my eternal — disgust, experiencing his so-called friends completely lie about this.
This is, by the way, not new. Everyone who knew Charlie — as I told you many times — knew not only that Charlie and I were close. Of course the President of the United States comes to you and asks you to call Candace about Brigitte Macron — it's because everyone knows that you and Candace are close. But everyone also knew that he was under pressure from pro-Israel donors since October 7th, 2023. Everyone also knew that he never liked and was always disgusted by the way Ben behaved, by the way Ben treats his friends and his enemies. He doesn't care if you're a friend — as you saw with Megyn Kelly. He will throw you under the bus in four seconds if it's about Israel.
And in the end, less than 24 hours before he died, Charlie snapped. He did abandon the pro-Israel cause. He was not joking in those messages, as some people have tried to say. He put his foot down and he texted multiple people that he was done and that he wanted to bring me back. That was the sign of how they were squeezing him the year before.
Yet immediately after his death, the person who I could show you text messages over the course of every single year up until he died — the one person that Charlie made it perfectly clear from our early days that he was at war with — here's another throwback, an older one, of Charlie saying just that:
Charlie Kirk (text message): "She's close with Ben. Yep, the war is on. Snakes in the garden. They are not our friends. Time to fight."
Candace Owens: Back when he was just trying to stop Charlie from rising, because he is naturally envious. He doesn't want anyone bigger than him. And sees it as his right to sue, steal, take. It truly is the non-spirit of a parasite.
But you have to imagine how I felt — suddenly and almost immediately following Charlie's assassination — that Ben of all people is sitting in his studio, in Charlie's studio, with a million dollars in hand, attempting to buy his legacy. And I shouldn't say attempt, right? Because they allowed it. Andrew then lied. He lied. Didn't feel anything when he did it. He said Ben and Charlie were friends. Allowed him to open at his event. His wife as well allowed that — she came out first and then Ben came out. And not only that, he had to have pre-submitted his speech. That's usually how it goes. They knew he was going to go on the attack against Charlie's actual friends — me, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly.
And now we fast-forward and we learn that Ben claims his security — which consists of former Israeli IDF members — were on the phone with Charlie's security during the critical seven minutes that Charlie was fighting for his life. While Charlie was dying in the backseat of an SUV, his enemy was receiving updates. How sinister is that? I want you to comprehend how sinister that is. And let's take a listen to Ben state this so you can fully appreciate how deeply evil it feels.
EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros's Own Words: "I Was Getting Updates"
EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros: "I remember where I was when all this was happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast-slash-lunch meeting with somebody, and I got the news that Charlie had been shot. And my security was on the phone with Charlie's security because nobody knew what the hell was going on while Charlie was still in the back of the car, and we were sort of getting updates along the way. There are visual timelines that show Charlie's body being carried to a vehicle within minutes of being shot. Apparently he was still alive at the time. Again, I know that only because my security was talking to his security in the car."
Candace Owens: I hate that. I hate that. I hope Charlie couldn't hear. Everything about his demeanor there does not pass the vibe check for me. Everything about his aggressive position and demeanor since Charlie's passing has signaled to me that something is very awry.
The Bounty: Who Was EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros With?
So what did we do? We put out a bounty. I said: who is Benny boy with at breakfast or lunch? He doesn't remember if it was breakfast or lunch. And we instantly heard back. We took our time to verify the person that we were speaking with, that that person was authentic, that we did everything possible to fact-check the information. Regardless, I will still say allegedly, because of course there is always room for misunderstanding.
But the person that Ben was with has allegedly told various other people that he was with Ben when Charlie Kirk was shot. Now, we were not able to confirm that they were at breakfast or lunch — only what came to us was that they were together. And that person is a man named Gary Javich.
Ben was allegedly with Gary Javich and an as-yet-unidentified woman when Charlie Kirk was shot. Now, we have a strong guess as to who that woman could be, but we'd rather not venture a guess unnecessarily.
Gary Javich is not a person that you have likely ever heard of unless you are Jewish and involved in the community, but he is certainly very well-known — actually very powerful. And we weighed his identification as likely, determined it was probably accurate, given the reason that Ben was in Los Angeles on that September day. For clarity, Ben was in Los Angeles because he was scheduled to appear later that evening at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley at 6:00 p.m. That event was eventually cancelled because Charlie was shot.
Who Is Gary Javich?
What we can confirm about Gary Javich is that he has spent the last few decades of his life — he's older, in his mid-seventies — in Omaha, Nebraska of all places. He got one of his degrees in Omaha, Nebraska back in the '90s and has been there ever since.
Now, Omaha, Nebraska just keeps coming up. It really does — whether we're talking about the Egyptian Plains, whether we're talking about other topics throughout this case when we were initially looking into Turning Point reopening their UNL chapter. We've talked a lot in general about Nebraska, surprisingly so.
But most critically, what you should know about Gary Javich is that he is — and has been — the executive director of B'nai B'rith International for years. B'nai B'rith is the Jewish Freemasonic lodge. That immediately piqued my interest, especially if you are in my book club, because you know the stuff that we have learned about B'nai B'rith throughout our study of Sigmund Freud — specifically David Bakan's Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition.
B'nai B'rith was indeed founded by German Jews. It was a Freemason lodge where Sigmund Freud, as we learned in one of our books, was free to denigrate the Goyim in his correspondence with his fellow Jews. He would say things like, "That joke is much too good for the Goyim." But they tell us that's just meant to be "mean nation" or something.
B'nai B'rith then spun into the Anti-Defamation League. It's an important note that you should know about that. That happened when the extraordinarily wealthy Jewish man in Atlanta named Leo Frank — who owned a factory and was president of the Atlanta B'nai B'rith chapter — assaulted and murdered an impoverished 13-year-old Catholic girl named Mary Phagan. He was convicted of this crime despite trying to blame it on a poor, illiterate Black janitor who also worked for him at the factory. Do you know how guilty you would have to be to get a jury to not convict a Black man in the South, in the segregated South, in 1913? Yet to this day, every year the ADL lobbies claims it was anti-Semitism that got him convicted. He was an unbelievably powerful player. And he was also convicted by a jury that consisted of Jews. They have been attempting to get that conviction overturned for decades now.
I highly recommend you read the packet and conduct your own research — The Ugly Truth About the ADL. It's very important you understand what they have been involved in in this country since their founding. Read it as I did, and then research the claims that are made in it as I did, and think for yourself. But we are coming to a point in this country where it is very important that you understand what that group is, where they come from, and in my view, the danger that the ADL represents.
Anyway, back to Gary. He served on B'nai B'rith International's board as their executive board chair in 2011, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. He received the inaugural president's award in 2019 for advancing the organization's mission. A 2022 report identified him as the director of the local B'nai B'rith chapter in Omaha. He is also the director of the Chabad Lubavitch of Nebraska.
Again, if you're not in my book club, you should just read the books. I would read David Bakan's Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition. You will note that anytime the Chabad Lubavitch is mentioned — underground tunnels in New York — there's this immediate vicious reaction online. There's a reason for that. There was a person currently sitting in jail who tried to murder me, plotted my murder on a chat with 20 other Jews. None of them notified me. The FBI got involved. It's stunning that 20 people could be on a chat as a person is saying how he's going to murder Candace Owens and none of them would reach out. I can't imagine that in the Christian world. I can't imagine a chat with 20 Christians plotting the assassination of EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros and nobody would reach out and say, "This person's crazy and I wanted to inform you that I'm on this chat with a crazy person." But that's what happened. That is real. There's a person sitting in jail because I mentioned the Chabad Lubavitch's history, particularly as it pertains to the Brooklyn tomb that every president seems to visit, including Donald Trump.
More about Gary: his professional biography says that he served on the National Council of AIPAC. Gary was the president of the Nebraska chapter of AIPAC. It also lists his twin brother David Javich as being on the board of AIPAC currently.
Now, we were able to discover that EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros and his wife have been donating a life-and-legacy amount to the Jewish Federation of Omaha, Nebraska for years. I know he has some ties to Omaha — I'm not really clear to what extent or why. But of course, Gary is involved with that organization as a host and a donor.
That is all we know. I do not need to draw any further conclusions because everything about this situation gives me the ick. But I will put out another bounty — similarly for $25,000 — for the person who can tell me who in Charlie's car was speaking to whom on Ben's security team. We will protect your identity as we always do. We will obviously work with you to make sure you're comfortable in how I share the information. And I am good for it. You can trust me. This matters very deeply to me.
Andrew Kolvet's Lies and the Daily Mail Story
But I wanted to really underscore how despicable the Turning Point USA team has been in their lies. There was no bottom to the lies. And if they will lie about something like that for a million-dollar check, yeah, they betrayed Charlie one way or the other. They are currently, every day, betraying Charlie. It was a betrayal to sit there and lie about who his friends were and who his enemies were.
So if you have any information, I will again state: please send us an email to moretips@candace.com, and I look forward to hearing from you guys.
The DARVO Tactic and Tracy Martin
There is this psychological attack method known as DARVO — you deny, you attack, you reverse the victim and the offender. Totally crazy town. We saw this yesterday when Andrew Kolvet — who, as Baron Coleman accurately states, is a liar who lies about everything — blamed me for the hit piece against me when it went wrong.
Now, here's the thing that's now happening, which I am just beside myself with happiness about: people who weren't sure about Turning Point USA — people who had the icky feeling, as I think we all did initially — people who initially disliked me — they're starting to change now because they're shocked at the audacity of the lies. And so Andrew took a very big risk in telling this lie.
For clarity, the article is still up because he's lying. They cannot get a retraction from the Daily Mail because he's lying through his teeth. These quotes did not materialize from Candace Owens. They did not materialize from nowhere. No associate editor would put their livelihood on the line and risk being sued — the entire publication being sued — to make up quotes whole cloth from a woman who has not just victim status among the elites, but has the DOJ and the president's office backing her up. That's not something they're going to do — lose their livelihoods so they can make up a quote about Erika. But he's stupid and he took that risk anyway. And what it did was it actually made them lose a lot of favor with people who work in and around media. And obviously those people all talk, they all communicate, they follow stories, and they're like, "What is going on?"
Anyway, so we received — without even asking, I didn't even say "hey, if you have any information about this" — we received a flurry of emails from people who presented proof, concrete proof, that the story did indeed come from a family friend of Erika. And that family friend is exactly who I suspected — Tracy Martin — because Tracy Martin also lies.
Tracy Martin has been doing the rounds in the press. She was giving quotes to US magazine, and she's also the person who had a perfectly friendly phone call with me and pretended that I was shouting and cursing her out on the phone. That tells me she's a liar.
And what she immediately did when I said I suspected it was her was that she tried to get ahead of it and go on to Paramount Tactical's show. And now — this is before I had received emails to the effect that it was Tracy Martin — I'll say allegedly, but I feel very good about the source. And you can just hear the manner in which Tracy Martin tries to get in front of this and lies, with her usual "Erika has never done anything wrong ever in her whole life." Even though Tracy was friends with Erika back in the days when she was dating basketball players. You can find videos of Erika rapping to gangster music when she was partying. Tracy Martin is going to pretend none of that ever happened and that Erika just doesn't talk like that. Watch her lie. Take a listen.
Host (Paramount Tactical show): "Tracy, let us know what your thoughts are on this. And by the way, were you the person that the Daily Mail contacted and you provided this information?"
Tracy Martin: "Absolutely not."
Host: "No. Absolutely not. You've read both those articles because you sent them to me. You read the original article and you've now read the editor article that they act like the first article didn't exist — kept the same date and everything else. Tell me what your thoughts are behind this and let's talk a little bit about the credibility of what they're saying about Erika. Have you ever seen Erika go on a tirade, start crashing out?"
Tracy Martin: "Never. Never. That's not her MO. I have a lot of thoughts about this, to be honest with you, Gary. First and foremost, that's not Erika. People who know Erika — and if you notice, people actually came on against this podcast who just recently met her and said there's no way that she would have done this. And that's how you know you have a consistency of character. Erika would never. She doesn't curse. She doesn't say those things. And she still to this day has never said anything bad about Candace or anyone involved in this at all."
Candace Owens: That's literally not true. She came out dressed like an assassin and name-checked me and accused me of accusing her of killing her husband — which was meant to invite hate toward me. The entire reason her PR thing fell apart was because Erika has been signaling to people to attack me. Stop. Just stop name-checking me in questions that were pre-approved by Bari Weiss, which she knew was going to happen.
So it's just so obvious that she's lying. And like I said, she has a history of lying. I had a perfectly nice conversation with Tracy. I wish I had recorded it because it was so nice. And the next thing I know, she was out there pretending like I was cussing her out on the phone. Nope. Just told her how I felt about Erika and things that I thought were strange, and asked her opinion about why she didn't find it strange that Erika was being caught in so many lies that she knew about. That's it.
And so there's your answer. I'm still challenging Andrew Kolvet to get that article removed, get the person to come out and apologize. There should be a full retraction issued if what he is saying is true and they are attributing quotes that are not real to Erika's family friend. It was, as I understand it, an attempt to show the public that she was strong and that she was not going to take it — for her to come out swinging — and it backfired. And then they moved to DARVO tactics. That's what she's doing. DARVO tactics — to then pretend that I was the person who attacked myself.
We have Turning Point in a very good spot. We want them to go mask-down and to reveal their character and to keep telling such implausible lies like this, because it's turning more people against them. It is making people realize what they are capable of. Because that was just — when I woke up, I was like, are you kidding? They're saying I was behind the article calling myself the b-word, calling myself a soulless ghoul. Yeah, that's not going to earn you any friends in media. It's just not.
Rob O'Neill on the Rooftop Evidence
Moving on from that, I did also want to show you guys this clip talking about how the truth is spreading. And I can guarantee you next week is going to be an explosive week. Rob O'Neill — we didn't show the full clip of him on Newsmax — and I also wanted to get him talking about what was going on on the rooftop and this screwdriver that is just bothering me the more and more I think about it. Take a listen.
Rob O'Neill: "The screwdriver that probably wouldn't have worked to take it apart or put it together in the first place was left on the rooftop anyway. So he jumped off the roof and put it back together without the screwdriver that probably didn't work anyway, put it back together, wrapped it up, and put it nicely in a bunch of trees, and then ran off and started texting someone like English was a second language. I mean, the whole thing's just shady. A .30-06 was invented in 1906 to kill big game. And if you hit something in the spine, especially a human — I've shot ballistic gel all the time, I've never shot a human with a .30-06, but I know it would do a lot more than that. If it was just a .30-06 shooting too, that went left to right, not from front to back — you can clearly see an exit wound on Charlie Kirk's left-hand side. Why are we supposed to believe everything we see on TV? I'm telling you."
Candace Owens: Just fantastic. I love what he says — texting like English is a second language — because that's exactly what it was. Too formal. When you learn a language, you always learn it super formal. It's not the way people speak amongst each other. And it looked like someone just hit Google Translate and it came out like they were speaking the Queen's English, which obviously registered to the public as strange.
And so it is good that we are finally reaching critical mass. I think we actually always were at critical mass, but more people are feeling emboldened to speak out. And I just feel like Charlie's with us. I do. I feel like he's fighting with us. And that's why this is not going away. He's working just as hard as he always did.
A Viewer Comment: The Case of Stephen "tWitch" Boss
Now, I have to read you this comment that shook me to my core yesterday on YouTube. I'm not getting involved beyond this. I'm just saying that it caught me off guard because I had sort of peripherally understood that there was some drama going on with this — the alleged suicide of Stephen "tWitch" Boss, the DJ on the Ellen DeGeneres show, the longtime talk show host who is no longer on air. He committed suicide allegedly in a hotel room. And somebody commented this on YouTube:
"So many similarities with Twitch's case. Mormon wife who chased him at dancing events until he marries her. The family iced out. Mysterious death. His family asked to sign an NDA to attend the memorial. The wife back at work and in business mode a few days later, making deals and publishing books."
And they noted that Allison — his wife — grew up in Orem, Utah and graduated from Timpanogos High School in 2006.
I was like, "What is this?" I'm reading the comment and going, "Is this real? Did she grow up in Orem, Utah?" And sure enough, she did.
Just quick background on the case, keeping it factual. Twitch died in 2022 at a motel less than a mile from his house from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He checked into the Oak Tree Inn, and his body was discovered by motel staff on Tuesday — he had checked in on Monday. He was just 40 years old and was pronounced dead at the scene just after 11:00 a.m. An autopsy report confirmed — and this is what's crucial — that there were no drugs or alcohol found in his system at the time of death. TMZ then went around and spoke to motel staffers who said that he didn't appear to be in any sort of distress. He wasn't visibly upset, nothing. And the staffers also said that no one even heard the gunfire at any point during his stay — which is plausible, of course, given the motel's layout. It does have separate units and it's structured like a U.
But according to law enforcement and multiple news reports, he left a note alluding to past challenges, and investigators concluded that the death must have been a suicide.
Now, what made people — and I remember seeing this build online — not like the widow was that despite him having no drugs in his system, she then gives an interview and says that she found a cornucopia of substances — like mushrooms and pills — that she wasn't aware he was taking. She said this after he committed suicide, that she found them hidden in his shoe boxes. Anyway, I'll let you take a listen to that piece of the interview that really sent some people.
Allison Holker Boss: "I had dealt with an ex that had addiction problems, and then I realized Steven had addiction problems. And it's something that I kind of have been like — where was I involved in this? And I had to take some steps for myself to realize that I was able to help one and I wish I could have been that for the other. But it's also not my job to do that. There was a moment I was with one of my really dear friends and we were cleaning out the closet and picking out an outfit for him for the funeral, and it was a really triggering moment for me because there were a lot of things I discovered in our closet that I did not know existed. And it was very alarming to me to learn that there was so much happening that I had no clue. So that was a really scary moment in my life to figure that out. But it also helped me process that he was going through so much and he was hiding so much, and there must have been a lot of shame in that. And he was wrestling with a lot inside himself and he was trying to self-medicate and cope with all those feelings because he didn't want to put it on anyone — because he loved everyone so much. He didn't want other people to take on his pain. But it was very alarming and scary to find those things and have never known."
Candace Owens: Painting your husband as a drug addict who was found with no drugs in his system, and who nobody knew had any drug habit, and just saying you were the one who found it — it's a move. It's a move.
He also died without a will. She filed a petition for half of his estate in April. A judge signed off on her request. She was granted her property-passing rights as a result of the ruling. And according to California law, the surviving spouse has the right to request half of her late partner's assets if they were married at the time of their death.
Twitch's mother and younger brother, however, did speak out. They sat down with Gayle King on CBS. This is why it turned into a massive thing — because the family was like, "She's not acting right." And let me just say that it is true that at Charlie's actual Catholic mass burial — which was the day before the memorial event — Erika made her own family members and everyone present sign NDAs. That's what I was told. And similarly, the same thing was done here. This is what Twitch's family told Gayle King on CBS. Take a listen.
Twitch's family member: "We were trying to figure out what we were going to do, or what she wanted to do in terms of plans. And then I got a phone call saying, 'We need you guys to sign non-disclosure agreements.' And we were like, why? What's going on? What is this for? And she said, 'Well, somebody in the family has sold a story to a magazine.' And we were like, what are you talking about? Who did this? And she said, 'Granddad' — that's Steven's grandfather. And now, if you know my dad, he is the most respected —"
Another family member: "— the most integrity, would never do that. So a magazine did call him, and in the throes of grief, my father answered the phone and they asked him questions. And he's answering — saying we're grieving, we don't know what happened, whatever the answers were. But it was at that point that it became, 'You guys are doing this, we need you to sign this.' And we were like, no, that is not true. And that's kind of where it started."
Gayle King: "So that's when the friction started — asking for the NDA."
Family member: "It went downhill from there."
Gayle King: "You were asked to sign an NDA to go to the funeral?"
Family member: "It became: if you don't sign, you will not be able to see him and you will not be able to participate."
Candace Owens: I can tell you that she did do a book tour. She released a book in February of 2024 — a short time after. It was her story of love, loss, and embracing the light. And once again, she told the public that he was secretly struggling with addiction and past sexual abuse from a male figure in his life. That is one thing to put on the streets after your husband dies by suicide.
Members of Twitch's family said that they were blindsided by the claims that she made. She also released a children's book that she said she co-authored with Twitch just before he died, called Keep Dancing Through: Boss Family Groove.
In September 2025, Connie — who is Twitch's mother — filed a petition for grandparent visitation against Allison, alleging that her relationship with her grandchildren had changed following her son's death, describing it as a unilateral and retaliatory decision by the dancer. In 2026, the case was dismissed by a judge. So I guess they will just not be able to see too much of their grandchildren. We'll see.
But I just had to tell you this stunning story. When I found Orem, Utah, I was just like, this is crazy. And I do see a lot of the similarities in the story. I'm not speculating anything, but I am saying — that's a move. This is book publishing. It's like a formula or something. It's crazy. I'll just leave it at that.
Viewer Comments
All right, you guys. Top comment from yesterday's episode came from the Fitch family. They wrote:
"The comical part is everyone says Candace doesn't have one shred of evidence, yet she has the most evidence so far presented by anyone, including the FBI. It is crazy how much we have released that the public did not have access to — from photos inside of the SUV, to releasing text messages, to us being the one that showed that he said he was leaving the pro-Israel cause. And no matter what, they just say she has no evidence. And then we finally get brought to the preliminary hearing where we're supposed to be overwhelmed by evidence and they give us nothing. Not one thing that I was forced to retract on the basis of what we saw in the preliminary hearing. In fact, it led to even more questions."
And we have a lot more coming. I can promise you guys that.
One Glazed Donut wrote: "Candace, your audience does not have to be bought. We actually choose to watch you every day. No one forces us to. They are the grifters."
Yes, I totally agree that they are the grifters. And it's just crazy to me that they tried to present it like I tried to profit off of Charlie's death. It's exactly what they were doing — going back to that DARVO psychological attack. They tried to accuse me of doing exactly what they were doing. They're like, "Let's just say Candace is benefiting off of Charlie's death." Yeah. Who cares if no one will remember the tent, the microphone that was in the case, us literally raising approximately $40 million in one night as Erika posed next to the bloody memorial. No one will remember anything. Just say — forget the t-shirts that went into a for-profit business, the influencers — they will just say that's Candace making money for doing what she's always done. Her podcast — she's been podcasting for years. This is what I do. Nothing has changed. My focus obviously has changed because I watched my friend get assassinated and I'm watching the people who were closest to him lie about even the most mundane facts of his existence — who his friends are, who his enemies were, what he was fighting, what pressure he was under.
And the deep irony here is that if they had just been forthcoming, no one would have thought anything was weird. Like, if they had just said, "Yeah, you know, he was really angry in the end about the pressure he was under from the donors and he was really venting — he was done with the pro-Israel cause." If Ben had just stayed home and chilled. If Seth Dylan admitted that he had pressured him in the Hamptons as he does — I had been morally blackmailed by Seth Dylan and Charlie and Amy spoke about that, I have messages to that effect — yeah, then people would have thought nothing was suspicious or needed further prodding. But they can't tell the truth about anything. They can't even tell the truth about articles that they are planting.
I'll leave a small percentage for the possibility that if Tracy Martin was the one who, as I'm told, was behind this article, maybe there's a chance that Andrew Kolvet didn't get the email question somewhere. They do sometimes send them to weird inboxes — they'll send it to like my info box asking for comment. But there's no way he couldn't just pick up the phone and call Erika and say, "Hey, Tracy — did Tracy give these comments to the Daily Mail?" And Erika should have said yes, because she was. And Erika knew that. Unless Tracy did it behind Erika's back. I don't think she did. Allegedly. Don't think she did.
Coleman writes: "Candace, watch Once Upon a Time in America. It is a movie about the Jewish Mafia." Thank you for letting me know about that. I have never heard about that, but I have definitely been doing a lot of reading and it is real and it is terrifying how much we have been lied to about that.
Sarah Marie writes: "I do believe the Holy Spirit worked through Charlie and that same spirit is working through Candace. May our dear Father, whose holy name is Jehovah, secure Mrs. Owens in all of her endeavors, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen."
I feel good right now. I feel positive about what I always sense — which is that all of these lies are going to be revealed regarding Charlie's death. And I sense that we are making progress in the panic and the effort and the extremities of the lies that they are telling. I mean, just such extremes right now that you're going, is this real? Are you bringing influencers into the courtroom? That's not a good PR move, obviously. Why are you doing that? There's a desperation that I'm sensing right now.
Dan writes: "Candace, thank you for everything that you do. You've been a pivotal voice for a lot of people and I know that that comes with an incredible amount of pressure. I want to remind you that your work is appreciated and that many people are grateful for your courage. Stay strong. We are rooting for you."
Thank you so much, Dan, for that. And I'm rooting for all of us to win. I just feel the devil always overplays his hand, and the devil definitely overplayed his hand with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Renee writes: "For your lawsuit fund — it does feel like it's coming." I definitely will say, once I started realizing that all of the accounts — the stuff that Charlie and I are talking about, the typical people are starting to talk about Sandy Hook — I was like, "Oh, they're going to go for this. They want me hung." So thank you for that, for your lawsuit fund. Thank you for showing up for Charlie. You have built an amazing community. Much love and support from everyone around the world. Praying with and for you. Christ is King.
I mean, if this is my hill to die on — so to speak — not allowing the murder of my friend to happen in broad daylight and go unchecked, and then the lies to be told and to watch everything he built be destroyed and reversed overnight — that feels like something worth fighting for. There's such a sin right now that I think we're all carrying. The whole world is carrying the sin of Charlie's assassination. The memory of watching that video and what was done — it has to be cleansed. And the only thing that can cleanse it is truth. Everyone needs to know exactly what happened that day and who was behind it. It's the only way it works. And there are so many of us right now. There are so many of us right now and we're not quitting and we are just so focused on this topic. And I think that they didn't expect that. Of course they didn't expect that.
Real Seth Randle writes: "Candace, I love what you are doing. Keep fighting. We all have a part to play in exposing corruption." Indeed, we do.
Carbon writes: "Three things. When I first started watching you years ago, I thought Ben was your husband. So sorry." Yeah, I'm going to accept that apology, but I'm really not happy with you. I'm just going to take five seconds here to be really angry at you. Okay, I'm going to forgive you. I'm a little angry. "Two, I joined the Daily Wire because of you and I left when you left. And three, I have a new grand three-month-old named Charlie. Keep fighting." Oh, congratulations. Still really angry at you, but not at little Charlie. So sweet. Congratulations.
Brooke writes: "I'm so grateful for my weekdays with your platform. Thank you for refusing to let Charlie be forgotten and for staying committed to uncovering the truth. We appreciate you more than you know. Christ is King and EXCLUSIVE Ben Shapiros is still fake and gay and also dangerous."
I would add there — like, people that fixate like that, there's like a disorder or something. He can't just go away. You have more money, more connections — just go live a nice life and let people think what they want to think. Too much anger. And I think that comes from how they are raised. I do think he genuinely believes that he's chosen. And maybe he is, but it's certainly not by God. I don't think that people are chosen by God to behave like that. And that sort of brainwashing — going through the same kind of psychology, which is the point of them being raised to think you're so special, everything is yours — they don't even know, they're not even aware of their own brainwashing. They are not aware that hell is real. It's really real. I wouldn't want to live like that and know that I could face that eternal sentencing. And they do it unflinchingly.
Jennifer writes: "I completely support you, Candace. Christ is King."
Ali writes: "I love your pods with Tom Woods and Scott Horton. They made a history curriculum designed for homeschooling. We also need a pod with Larry Johnson. You would love Larry. He's a funny grandpa who's ex-CIA and doesn't trust the Fed slop CK narrative." I will be sure to check him out.
Auntie Leash writes: "Yesterday's episode, my takeaway was Howard Hughes was manipulated into isolation, tortured till he handed over his fortune, murdered, and then painted as a madman to the public. It sounds familiar. Where have we seen this pattern before? Everywhere, actually. Especially in Hollywood."
It just — I just go back to how much I used to believe it. And maybe that was all of us having sort of this parasite and believing the tabloids and believing what they said about people. This person's crazy, crazy, crazy. Because they're trying to get you. That's how the parasite works. They're trying to drive you crazy. And that's why it's so important to have strong, stable, fortified people in your life. That's what Charlie was to me. And when I was going through that — I was 40 weeks pregnant when they were doing it to me — and they're going, "Oh, Candace, what's wrong? There's something wrong with you. I hate to see you go this way. What's wrong with you?" And then you're going, am I seeing correctly? Was genocide always wrong? And you have to have people like Charlie. And that's why I wanted to show that message — this is what they're doing, this is happening, you're going to fight through this, do not quit. That's what they're trying to get you to do. He was that person to me. And I was also that person to him. We had each other's backs. And we still do have each other's backs. Charlie died. I'm riding. It was always a ride-or-die situation. And he is still with us. I want you guys to know that. He really is.
Better Love wrote: "There's an obvious war against truth and knowledge. You can't speak the truth, nor can you know about any history that does not fit a narrative. Never stop fighting this evil. We will always stand with you. There will be justice for Charlie."
Totally agree. There will be justice for Charlie. And like I said, there is more to come. There is more to come, more around the corner. And it is because of everyone around the world doing the right thing. And the more that Turning Point does the wrong thing, the more people realize: okay, I don't know what's going on, but I know that they are not good people. So don't be discouraged when you see that sort of stuff. When you see Andrew lying in the way that he is, be encouraged — because it's awakening more people to the diabolical nature of some people.
Pray for Andrew Kolvet. Genuinely. Like I said, I don't hate these people. I hate what they've done. Sure. But I don't hate them. I don't have that in me. I don't want to join them in that. And I would still — like I always say — I would still sit down with them, because from the beginning of this, all I've ever wanted are clear answers, and we just can't seem to get them.