Emergency update on the Charlie Kirk investigation, featuring new photographic evidence
Candace Owens presents an unplanned episode sharing new photographic evidence in her ongoing investigation into the death of Charlie Kirk.
Summary
Candace Owens hosts this solo emergency episode of the Candace podcast, explaining she was persuaded by collaborator Baron Coleman to release new evidence ahead of a two-week break. The episode centers on newly revealed photographs from the car in which Charlie Kirk was transported after being shot, which Owens argues show shattered tempered glass consistent with a rigged road microphone — contradicting the official account. She contends that key witnesses, including Frank Turek and Brian Harpole, have repeatedly told their stories across multiple interviews without ever mentioning the shattered glass or explaining how the microphone was destroyed.
Owens also highlights that Charlie's bloodied jacket, which had been left on a hanger in the car, was returned directly to Erika Kirk's apartment in Arizona by security rather than being collected as evidence — a detail she frames as suspicious given Frank Turek's stated reason for changing his own clothes after the shooting.
Owens shares her assessment of Mikey McCoy's emotional reaction at the hospital as evidence he did not know Charlie would die, and revisits Erika Kirk's behavior before and after the shooting, including a clip of Charlie Kirk recounting that Erika told him God wanted his phone on on the day of the Butler assassination attempt. She closes with extended thanks to the online community of independent researchers who have contributed to the investigation, announces the show will return July 13th, and notes that President Trump publicly named her the most vile person of the year — a designation she interprets as self-revealing.
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Opening: Why this emergency episode is happening
Candace Owens: Thank you for your patience. We're a little early today because we were not supposed to be on air at all today. We don't really even have a show. I think you'll start to realize this is more of an open investigation and we're going to be asking you a lot of questions and asking for your contributions, because we are not experts at everything — or really, I guess, any of the isolated things that we've been covering on this show. We have really been relying on people at home to help us figure out what happened to Charlie Kirk as we've put together timelines and pieces of information.
The reason I'm on air is because I spoke with Baron Coleman yesterday evening and he convinced me that some evidence that he knew I had positively needed to be shared before we went away for two weeks. He gave me his reasons as to why it was so significant, and I pushed back on the timing. He obviously knew why we wanted to hold on to it, but I ultimately concluded that Baron Coleman was right. Now is the time to share it and to allow you guys to contribute before we go away. So, welcome back to Candace.
The strategy behind withholding evidence
Candace Owens: If you guys have been on this journey with us, you understand what we have been doing here — the strategy we have had, the information that we have intentionally not released early, that we have sat on. It's obvious: we are playing chess here. There are a lot of heavy players involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination and we needed to be able to separate who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. Just because Frank Turek tells a lie, just because Brian Harpole tells a lie, does not mean that every single person at Turning Point USA is implicated. And I needed to fully assess the character of a lot of individuals who were around Charlie — people who I couldn't believe would betray Charlie. I wanted to see who would lie, who would cover up, who would get behind and host commentators who were friends of Charlie Kirk's as they lied through their teeth to the public, tried to dissuade them from looking at certain evidence, telling them this is not possible, this is not true.
But most importantly, I needed to get people who were intimately involved on that day to tell their stories over and over and over again — people like Frank Turek, his car ride, which is told differently than it is by Brian Harpole. Their memory of a very short ride. Both of them telling stories that are not matching across the shows that they are choosing to go on when they share it. The terms that they are using: conspiracy theorists, demonic. We needed to see who these people are.
Tyler Robinson and the explosive device theory
Candace Owens: Recently, as you guys have seen, we have been — at long last, after debunking many elements of this case with various things that we have presented to the public exclusively — convinced that Tyler Robinson did not murder Charlie Kirk. Was he an accessory to murder? Did he help out that day? Did he bury clothes at Dairy Queen? I certainly believe he did pick up clothes and bury them at Dairy Queen. I do not believe that he was on campus on top of Loi Center firing a shot at Charlie Kirk's neck. I can say that unequivocally.
And you saw that we began to reintroduce a theory that John Bray had been working on for a very long time regarding an explosive. He was convinced from the very beginning that Charlie's microphone was rigged beneath him and that it subsequently shattered. We obviously had those car photos and had been working on that in the background, but what we did not do was release all of the car photos. The purpose of that is obviously to see how audacious people will be. Will they lie? Will they lie and pretend that that is just — I don't know — blood drops? That's not Charlie's microphone? That's not the road microphone? That's something else? It's a pair of sunglasses? And lie they did. Lie they did through their teeth.
Walking through the new photographs
Candace Owens: So we are going to show you additional photos. Viewer discretion is very much advised. It's not like you are going to see Charlie's body here, but it will show you some other details of the car that we can speak to you about and tell you what's missing and why it does not register. None of this registers as right in our minds. What happened in this car does not match the stories that we have been told thus far. They're missing a big part. You don't just forget shattered glass — tempered glass from a microphone. How did that happen? Are we going to get a story about a steel chest to go along with the steel neck? Are we to believe that someone did it with their bare hands? Why don't you try taking a road mic and breaking it in your bare hands? That's not possible. Nobody's story told anything about even lifting Charlie's shirt, or how that microphone could have broken. And we are now going to put the full pressure on them to do just that.
So we're going to take you through a total of four additional photos and then give you the close-up. We can now say confidently that there is black tempered shattered glass all over the car where Charlie's chest region would have been, according to the story that Frank Turek and Brian Harpole told.
Photo one: The Uber bag and the jacket hanger
Candace Owens: Here we go. Let's go through these slowly. You again see in this photo the Uber bag with the blood on it in the back seat, which I believe was most likely used to wipe hands afterwards — maybe getting out of the car. I think it's likely, given where Frank Turek was sitting, that that is him.
But I also want to point out this hanger to you. Another piece of information that we have had is that Charlie had his sports coat — his jacket, if you will. You'll remember that he gave an interview which was quite mysterious in my opinion. He went to Salt Lake City and gave an interview to Restaurantology, I think was the name of the company, before he drove to Provo for this event. And so he had a jacket that he did not wear. Obviously he was in a t-shirt. That jacket stayed in the car.
I can tell you that that jacket was returned to his security and made it back to Erika's apartment with blood still on it. It was not collected into evidence. That is an important piece for me to share with you, because the question it leaves is: why was that personal effect — bloodied — returned pretty immediately back to Erika's apartment in Arizona by the security? And the reason why that is an important detail is because the story that Frank Turek tells us is that he changed his clothes in part because he didn't want Erika to see him bloodied. So are we to believe that they did want to hand her a bloody jacket of Charlie's? Frank's bloodied clothes would be more disturbing to her — and we don't even know why they're bloody — than Charlie's bloody clothes. That's where I'm guessing that hanger is from.
Photo two: The unidentified items — cardboard, the black bag, and the foil
Candace Owens: Let's go to the second photo. We're going to talk about that piece of what looks to me to be cardboard. It could be something else. People in the medical field might recognize it. This might have something to do with Brian's story about packing the wound. That bag behind looks to me like some sort of a medical bag — maybe binoculars, a security bag, something on the go. In the comments, you guys can write to us. We could not identify what that brand was in the background. We've looked up different binocular brands. Not saying it's anything nefarious — we would like to identify what that item is.
The next photo shows — I don't know if you can see it clearly on your screen, but in the middle there is just full shattered tempered glass. There's no mistaking it. There is no question mark. That is what is in the middle of that car. We will get close on that as well so you can see it. John Bray was telling the truth. And many, many, many people — those who Charlie put on stage and whose careers Charlie built — were lying to you. They were calling this a conspiracy. It is not a conspiracy at all that there is tempered shattered glass with white bits all over the center of this car and into the back seat.
The stories that Frank and Brian Harpole have told to the public for some reason don't include this. We were told only his neck was being addressed. They got right to work. Frank was praying in the back seat. They had about six minutes on the clock, weaving through traffic at 40, 60, 100 miles per hour, for a ride that Google Maps says is eight minutes away. And again, if you're able to hit those speeds, it means that you were not stuck in traffic. Why is this detail missing?
Let's go to the next photo. Once we get closer, you'll see — I'm just wondering what's under that mat. It looks to me like something that's foil, potentially. And when we get super close on it, you'll be able to see the color of it. My guess is that's going to be something that was in the medical bag, but someone in the comments will recognize it.
Live crowd-sourcing: identifying the items in real time
Candace Owens: Let's get into these closer images. Okay, so this particular piece — at first glance I thought it could be the Uber bag, but then I also thought it looks a lot thicker. I'm referring to what looks like a piece of cardboard. It's also separate from the bag, entirely separate from the rest of the bag. And when we look at the bag, it doesn't look like it was ripped into small bits. The whole bags seem to be together. This just stood out to me because it almost looked like — it reminded me visually of what I feel like I'm looking at — like when you burn the edges of a cardboard. I was referencing that when I was a kid and we didn't have lighters. I used to just grab a box and go to the gas stove and light that on fire and then light the candle and blow it out. That is just what it sort of looks like to me.
Our team also posited that maybe it looks that way because it could just be heavy blood, or it could be something that people in the medical community will recognize. It obviously has blood on it. It just looks thicker to me. The way that it's sitting just looks thicker to me. But of course I could be wrong. We're just allowing you guys to weigh in on that — like, what that could be, why that would be separated from the bag, which while it is damaged, the two Uber bags are together and on the other side and not that drenched. They look more like somebody sort of wiped their hands very quickly because they didn't have paper towels — not really having that drenching, and none of the ends of the paper bag look like that. So that's a point of curiosity for us.
Someone in the comments said "shirt" — that's funny you say that because somebody literally just said that to us in our marketing department. Said that looks like a shirt. That's the first thing he said. But I'm wondering — is that a white shirt? Again, all open-source investigation. Want to share this with you so everybody is able to have this at home.
Somebody is saying that the back of that could be a taser. I thought that too. I tried to look up taser brands because that would be something I thought for a second — I did remember that Rick Cutler had something on his back when he was running in there, and I thought it would make sense that he would just throw it off so that he could sit more properly. But it didn't match what Rick Cutler had on him.
Skylar is saying it could be a pulse oximeter for O2. I like that. We did think it could be more standard medical equipment that somebody has on them. I'd like to identify the brand. We've got every country in the world watching this. Somebody is going to recognize the specific brand so we can go check off and begin to sort through everything that we're seeing.
Aha — did someone figure it out? Someone in the comments. Oh, Ashley figured it out. santamedical.com. Can you go back to the photo? There we go. That is santamedical.com and that is likely what that is. So I would assume then that that correlates with what Brian Harpole said. He did say — I believe in the Paramount Tactical interview, or maybe actually it was in the Shawn Ryan interview — that he had that stuff but it wasn't relevant to what he was doing. So he may have had that because he was traveling with Charlie in the back seat. That clocks with me.
The foil piece and the shattered glass close-ups
Candace Owens: Let's move on to the foil piece. Okay, so that's under the mat there. That's about as close as we can get to it. Obviously you get any closer, you start to lose the image. I feel like that's going to have something to do with the gauze or the hemostatic packing. I feel like some medical person will go, "Oh yeah, that's what it looks like on the inside — there's like a foil." I actually was going to go out and buy some of the stuff that he said that he had. Maybe it's wrapped in something. Maybe it's a sheet that you put people on. In case this image is losing clarity as we're live right now, I want you guys to know that it's almost coppery — it definitely has what I would describe as a coppery foil look to it.
We did have some people say to us that we had asked for their opinion — I'm assuming you're referring to that little cardboard piece — that it could be a part of a shaped charge. But as you guys know, I don't know anything about that stuff, so I would have to do some serious research to understand that.
Okay, let's go to the next close-up. We can now say officially, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we are looking at glass. It's black tempered glass all over the car — especially in between the two captain's chairs, right about where, if they were taking it off of Charlie's shirt or body, we would expect to see that. I had whipped up a scenario where rather than providing CPR, Frank may have been doing what got blood on his hands — trying to get Charlie's shirt off of him — because I do not believe for a single second that that scene took place at the hospital. And this is just undeniable now. This is undeniable.
So find your commentators who called it a conspiracy and laughed and said this could never be — well, these are the worst people. Many of them across the events Charlie had put on stage and given a spotlight, and they are now full-time trying to convince you that you shouldn't believe your own eyes and you should trust the feds.
Challenging the official narrative
Candace Owens: Here it is. Any questions about whether that's tempered glass? Now, you can say you can't necessarily — we all agree it's glass — but you could say, "Okay, let's arrive at this point. I agree Charlie's road microphone is shattered on the car, but does it mean that it was rigged?" That's my devil's advocate. Doesn't mean that it was rigged. Okay. So tell us how it was broken in the car. You go be the conspiracy theorist, because that's what you're going to have to do. Your stories are going to have to get dumber and dumber. And while you're at it, could you also tell us why it is that despite telling what happened in that car many times — "Oh, didn't realize my kids were all in the back seat, they heard everything, Frank's praying, we're speeding, we're weaving through traffic, I'm just packing that wound, packing that wound" — nobody mentioned this? Nobody mentioned this at all.
By the way, one of the immediate questions I had was: why didn't we see, as they were carrying Charlie to the car, some of that fall down? I had no idea that this is sticky glass — that there's an adhesive attached to it. Like, think about when you put a screen on your phone — it has an adhesive, so it actually sticks everywhere. It sticks all over. Once it's on a fabric, it sticks. I was interested going, "Okay, well, like —" and there is some that actually fell in front of Charlie, and John Bray is getting me those photos — when there was an immediate impact, like the pieces that flew.
And you know what it does? It actually answers a question that I've had for a very long time. We are declining to show the photo because it's so graphic — of why they held Charlie, and forgive my language, why they held Charlie like they were a bunch of idiots as they carried him to the car. Nobody was focused on securing his neck. His neck was literally flopping. We have those images. The audacity of Brian Harpole to sue me over his incompetence. You can't call me incompetent. Watch the way Charlie is carried to the car. Case closed.
His neck is literally flopping and it seems like they're more concerned with holding him here. Charlie's head is literally flopping and it's like they're more concerned with his chest. They don't care about his legs. It's like they're concerned with his shirt — almost like his shirt is actually coming up. You can see his torso.
What I think is plausible — it might not be right, but it's plausible — is if you had a bunch of tempered glass that was sticking to him as a fabric, you would bunch up that shirt like it was a purse to make sure it wasn't seen by the public. Your focus would actually be Charlie's shirt. And if you go back, there is no way that that many men could not hold him flat and secure his neck properly as they got him into the car. That does not make sense. Big bad security. Millions of dollars of years being spent on the security apparatus and you guys can't hold him flat. And why is his shirt up at all? Because I think you're scooping something in there. Something's there that's sticking. That's an opinion, not a fact. But I'm going to think while it's still legal to do so.
So we can totally dismiss what everybody has told you about this theory not having legs, because now they need to tell us how it happened. Are they going to say more miracles? More Judeo-Christian slop miracles that took place that day? Maybe Andrew will issue a tweet. Maybe Erika will say that he went rogue. I think Andrew Kolvet might go rogue again today and say, "We called and we asked and it was a miracle." Not only did Charlie's neck stop 3,000 pounds of energy coming at him and ricochet off the back of his spine, but it also moved forward and shattered his mic, which was placed here. I don't know if he's got a steel neck. I'd assume he has a steel rib cage or something.
I think that's what we can expect, because I've run this with Baron, I've run it with Tim — like, give me the other side. We all have to acknowledge that this is the road mic. How did it break? Maybe it was Frank through the power of prayer. They're going to give us this slop because that's what it is. They're serving up Christian slop. They think we are stupid and easily manipulated and that all we have to hear is the Lord on stage talking about the Lord, Dana sounding like she's channeling demons on stage talking about the widow, and we're all just going to get in line because we're so dumb.
So maybe that is going to be their next move. They're going to say Frank Turek, through the power of prayer, this secondary miracle happened in the car and the mic just shattered. Or maybe it was when he was doing CPR — he just had an incredible hand and accidentally shattered it. Even though that'd be impossible to do and impossible for him to illustrate, you have to understand these were extraordinary times. Your move, Turning Point USA. Your move. What's your explanation? Your move, Blake Neff. Charlie's real friends — make sense of how his microphone ended up in a bunch of bits in his car.
Mikey McCoy's reaction at the hospital
Candace Owens: I know there's a clip going around and I told you guys from the very beginning that one of the things I was told about Mikey in the hospital was that they were lying. If you go back and watch our episodes, I said really early on that them saying that Mikey was amazing — Erika the first to say it at the podium: "He was amazing, he snapped into action" — that was patently untrue. Mikey was the most emotionally impacted. He did not have it together.
A clip went around showing Mikey — I don't know if you guys can pull it — of him when they were carrying Charlie's casket out of the hospital, and you catch in the background Mikey looks like he's physically sick. This clip recently went viral, but I've been telling you the whole time that Mikey — that was in the background, physically sick — is what I was told from the very beginning. Mikey was impacted by this in a way that leads me to believe that Mikey did not know that Charlie was going to die on that day.
Do I think Mikey knew something was going to happen, with the speed that he called his wife? Do I think that Mikey McCoy was prepared for Charlie to die that day? No. I do not believe that. Not with that reaction. Not with what I was told. Mikey had raw emotion at the hospital. Of all of them, Mikey was the most upset. And yet they then all came out and tried to spin a tale that he just jumped into adrenaline action and was calling the shots. And it's obviously not true. He couldn't even hold the casket. He was holding his stomach like he was going to become ill. He was ill. Mikey had a soul. Does he still have one now? Are the meetings with Doug DeGroot talking about investment and what you're going to do — is that what they're pumping Mikey with right now? "Hey Mikey, you're going to be the next Charlie. We're going to make so much money."
Here's the video right here. Look at Mikey right there, in the black behind. Look at him. That was Mikey at the hospital. I was told: not an active participant calling the shots and making things happen. And I think that they pumped him with that rhetoric and those names and adjectives because they were reassuring him in some way.
Erika Kirk and the phone call before Butler
Candace Owens: What now? Pastor Frank Turek. Man, I'd love to watch him proselytize right now. Sign me up. You're at a church, he's got the mic. Can you explain it, Frank? You've said a lot about me. In fact, I received an email that you guys knew I was going to be a problem from the beginning. Before I even knew that we were not on the same side, you guys knew we wouldn't be. That's stunning to me.
Someone sent me a photo from Arlington — they had made a poster at Charlie's memorial site, one of the many around the country, and they had written on the poster, "Don't worry, your big sister can figure out what happened." And the Turning Point staff removed the poster. They sent me the photos and everything. I don't have it for you today because we weren't planning on doing a show. They saw them whispering and they removed the poster. Yeah. They knew from the beginning that I was not going to get in line with this. And good on them — they were proven correct. That's the smartest inclination they've had since the beginning of this thing.
I would say, of course, the biggest question is what's that CEO and chairman going to say? Erika Kirk, what are you going to do? Stage another scene of you crying while you operate behind the scenes, try to take people down, sending out people like you're a queen for them to sacrifice themselves for you, telling lies, trying to make all of the things that don't make any sense somehow register as true? How's our emotional asset doing today?
I also wanted to show you very quickly this clip because it's crazy. This was going viral as well. Charlie had shared something interesting. We covered Butler — how there seems to be some possible thread here, similar things going on. Did you guys know that the Butler shooting happened on a Saturday? On Saturdays, Charlie turned his phone off. And yeah, on that particular Saturday, he didn't — because Erika, I don't know, had another one of these visions from God. Take a listen to what Charlie shared.
"It was a really strange day. I usually turn my phone off on Saturdays. I honor the Shabbat — and I'm not Jewish, but I think it's important that we Christians do. And yet I had my phone on because I was trying to help make JD Vance the vice president of the United States. So I had some calls to make. Let's just put it that way. And so my phone was on and Erika, my wife, was like, 'Yeah, I think God wants you to have your phone on today.' I was like, 'Okay, sure.' So we went down to — our complex has this big gym — and I had my daughter in my arms and I just like turned to the television."
How strange. He's just so plugged in this way. "God wants your phone on." And wow, he probably was like, "My wife, she really just is so godly." Yeah, you should ask her who in her phone is saved as God in her contacts. Is it Bibi? I mean, I'm just — I do think maybe God told her to have your phone on that day. I just don't know who she has saved in her phone as God. It's all so despicable. It's all so despicable. You cannot make it up. It just takes so much out of me to comprehend what these people — not just what they did to him, but what they are currently doing to him. They can't stop. They can't just stop and go, "You know what? I actually don't want to burn in hell for an eternity."
Responding to the idea of releasing everything at once
Candace Owens: Do I know more stuff? Yes, of course I do. I'm not an idiot. Why can't I just drop everything I have in one episode? Oh yeah, I love checkers. Why does she just say everything so we can all commute and change our stories and make everything fit and then stick to it? You guys think I'm an idiot? Do you really think I'm going to be tempted by Paramount not-so-tactical? I'm just amazed at the stupidity of the people they're sending out. We deserve better. We really deserve better. People with a higher IQ.
Reading viewer comments
Candace Owens: Top comment from yesterday's episode from Coopro: "Obviously, we are watching the greatest investigative journalist of our time." You're watching a mirror. It's you guys at home — people that are invested in sending tips — and you have a very small, hardworking team that is ready to read through everything and to do the work. Because there was a real friendship. Charlie had a friend in me. He did. We had great times and he should be here raising his kids. I don't know what else to say. It's such a weird thing to watch them try to change everything that he stood for, lie to us about who his friends were. We had really great times. We had so much laughter, so much fun, so much exhaustion, so many Starbucks coffees. He always texted, "Can you go down and get a latte? Can you go down and get a latte?" 5:00 a.m. The early morning Walmart stuff when your suitcase didn't go through — a broken suitcase, got to go through the airport, got to find a cheap one. "Do I look good in these sunglasses? I'm going down to the southern border." He had so much personality and so much energy and a vision. You can't kill the visionary and replace him with the occult. That's what you guys registered to the public as — a bunch of occultists. It's dark.
Mattiey's comment is: "What's always disturbed me is how calm all of Charlie's friends were giving interviews in the first few days after his death. There were no tears, no shaky voices, nothing. They gave interviews about what should have been the most traumatic thing they've ever witnessed, like they were presenting the morning traffic report. Charlie deserved better."
I will say I agree with you. I was stunned by how quickly they moved toward acceptance. I did not accept it. I don't accept it. I now accept he's dead — he's not coming back. I had to close that, whatever mental derangement I went through as I was grieving, where I wanted to believe that he was in like witness protection in New Zealand or something. I just needed to find a pocket of the internet that made me think he was still alive. I had to get to that part of acceptance. Charlie's not coming back. You're never going to be able to talk to him on this earth. I had to swallow that, and that took me until Q1 of this year. These people were on the news like, "Yeah, it's his legacy. This is what he wants and we ought to go forward. It's for him." Husband's dead. Turning Point 2.0 is here and we sold a lot of hats and his spirit's in the office. Get to work. God told me.
Max writes: "I am thankful each and every day that you use your platform for truth. Charlie was and is blessed to have had a friend like you. We should all hope for a friend like you. May you and your family be protected always. We love you. Keep going."
We're always protected in truth. All of us, all around the world. We are. And I think the partnership of this — to see every side come together and recognize the evil that was done here and be determined to take risks in their personal lives to get information to me, trusting me with that information, trusting that I will protect them — this is all of you.
The Balkans comment and Eastern European trafficking
Candace Owens: I actually wanted to read this comment. I got to grab my phone because — you know, Americans, we've been so asleep at the wheel of the evil that our military partakes in. And I've seen so many comments from you guys in former Yugoslavia and different countries about growing up and your parents keeping you safe.
This person actually wrote yesterday: "I'm from the Balkans and I grew up there in the '90s. We were young kids and always knew never to talk to anyone that we do not know, especially UNICEF or Americans. The things that are coming out now, our parents knew 30 years ago and they kept us on high alert. It has come out recently and is public knowledge now how for many, many years women who were pregnant would go into the hospital to give birth. The fathers were never allowed in the birthing suite. So it was the mother alone. The baby was then taken away for quote-unquote testing by the doctors, only to tell the mother a few hours later that her baby did not make it. They never got to see their dead baby — just that it didn't survive is what they were told. Some of these children were found many years later and were part of a trafficking ring."
That's what goes on in Eastern Europe, guys. I don't think everybody's going to Romania to help orphans. I just don't think these people have those kinds of hearts, especially when I watch how much they've lied to us and the public. I believe this user. I've never met this person in my life and I think they have more truth in them than any of the people who have been handed a mic at Turning Point since Charlie's passing.
More viewer comments and reflections
Candace Owens: Susie Hill writes: "Justice for sweet Charlie. You go get them, Candace. Our modern-day St. Joan of Arc."
Joe Philly writes: "I'm convinced that what they were doing on the ground behind the table, looking like they were handing stuff off to each other — they were trying to get all the main pieces off the ground, and Charlie realized. Get him to the car to get the rest."
I am now revisiting that footage and we are going to spend time looking at that as well as we develop the witness tree, because I think John Bray's theory has infinitely more evidence than the story that we have been told by the prosecution, by the FBI, and by the Turning Point USA representatives. John Bray has done tremendous work. I know you guys want me to have him on the show. I promise I will when I get back from break.
Vicky Blair writes: "I don't know if anyone has said this already, but it's nearly impossible to drive 60, 80, 100 miles per hour and still have the car door open. It seems that it would have cut off Charlie's legs."
Yeah. I know that they said — or rather Brian Harpole said — that they caught a tail. They were going so fast and there were police behind them, and the police had reported on the scanner that they saw what looked like a struggle in the car, which could have just been because they were physically seeing Rick holding Brian. So that would have looked like somebody was struggling, and if you're a cop, that's what you would perhaps describe it as. But I think that should probably help us map the directions they took, because I heard through the grapevine they did not even take the highway, which was right there, and instead went on back roads. So yeah, those speeds do seem impossible. But you guys are forgetting — it's a miracle. Everything that happened that day was just a Christian miracle, being spun by none other than Erika Kirk.
Jay Beam writes: "This will go down as the literal only good use of the internet and live streaming. Period. 100%. Israel incentivized a select few to take over TPUSA, to kill Charlie and to get him out of the way."
It's a sense that we all have. But I guess they think they can sue the sense out of us. The president of the United States — no one comes for the global ring. No one comes for the kings and queens. I am, if you have not heard, Time's most vile person of the year. You know, there are a lot of people I would put ahead of me on that list. Maybe Jeffrey Epstein even. Am I crazy? If you're going to be the president of the United States and you're going to call someone the most vile person of the year and your options are sitting before you — I mean, that would even be a great time to sell that Tyler Robinson did it. You could say Tyler Robinson. You could say Jeffrey Epstein. No, he said Candace Owens. Candace Owens is the most vile person of the year. Huh. And just like that, a mirror is lifted up. You see yourself in that, Trump.
What about the Trump family? Now, I think if I'm Andrew Kolvet, I play dumb — I wasn't in the car. If I'm Mikey, I wasn't in the car. I didn't know. No one told us that. We had no idea that's what happened. I guess they could play it off that way. But now you do know. You kind of have to cover it on his show, with his name. It's called the Charlie Kirk Show. Surely you're going to cover it, right? And you guys could then just get answers from Frank Turek, because he's right there. You guys are all in the same building — the Charlie Kirk building, the Fineberg building. You just turn right around and say, "Hey, did you know this? When you guys were cleaning up, like, this was never recovered?" I think they could get some quick answers for us.
Gratefully, the spokesperson — we don't have to imagine or use any conspiracies anymore. They're going to have a solid story for how that mic shattered in the car.
Zamit writes: "You can't change the world, but you can change your mind." Absolutely.
Auntie Lish writes: "Mikey knew, Candace. He didn't look. He walked away because he knew he couldn't look at his friend die. That is not a normal reflex to an unexpected bang. He would have looked and reacted, not walked away. He knew — he just had no power to stop it."
Is it possible he thought it was going to be like a staged thing or something, and then he found out Charlie died and it was like something went wrong? I don't know. From the beginning I have not sensed that Mikey is a purely evil person. I don't get that from him. I think his father is — I don't get that from Mikey McCoy though. I get someone who was born into — he has an arranged marriage. That's weird. I don't sense Mikey McCoy as being like the rest of them. I think there's just a little shred that still exists in him of goodness.
And who knows? I will tell you that we will have no doubt who the good guys are and who the bad guys are by the time we're done with this stuff, because there's a lot more information that we have had. But we wait for them all to lie on the record repeatedly, because we even need to know who the commentators are that betrayed Charlie. Some people I could never look in the face. How dare you? Who are you? Who raised you? Money. That's it. Your whole soul. Deal with the devil. Satan comes in and says, "Hey — money, riches, jewelry, plastic surgery, you can have lips done, you can have two properties, you can vacay down in Miami — all you have to do is let Charlie Kirk die and play your audience like they're dumb when it's so obvious that they're being told lies." And that's it. You're like, "Yeah, cool. Hell for eternity. That's great. As long as I can get that beach house in Miami." Life's a blip, people. This ain't it. You can't take it with you when you go.
Closing: gratitude, the bald eagle, and a call for tips
Candace Owens: Anyway, I think yesterday I accidentally said that we wouldn't be back until August 13th. That was not accurate. I obviously thought two weeks was August 13th. It's actually July 13th. So we will be off air until July 13th, and this surprise show — I'm trying to work through book club. So I might just do it from Spain this weekend.
Thank you guys for being on this journey. It's been a heavy one. And thank you, Baron, for telling me that this was the right time to do this. I think you are totally right. And I just want to say thank you to just all of the YouTubers — everyone. Coach Colin — I could never say enough names. Lionel Nation — your guys. I thought I was going to be doing this investigation with Charlie's friends, like the people who were his friends. And I had said to Lionel yesterday that you guys really got me through it when it was really tough to process the fact that these weren't his friends and that I was going to be fighting them. So I just want to let you guys know — all of the smaller YouTube accounts — I see your stuff. I see your videos. The people like John Bray, the people who are curious, who have sent in little details — this is all you. I have a platform. This is not even my platform. I will have this platform for however long God wills it. But this investigation belongs to all of us.
And I just wanted to say that you have no idea how patient you guys have been with me — with the emotionality of dealing with it and sharing the information, letting me know that there was a band of goodness of people who never knew each other that just dug in and didn't let it go. Ian, Carol — I mean, I could go on and on. I am just so grateful and I see how everyone has just worked so seamlessly together. And I see you guys even in the comments — like when I was just thinking, "How can I take on this behemoth, this monstrosity? I feel so small." And of course, it's David and Goliath, I guess, would be the right thing to say. To really realize — am I really going to have to do this alone, and not with all of the people who Charlie helped to propagate? That was a tough realization.
And there was a particular moment in Wyoming where I consciously made the decision that I was going to do it. I was in deep prayer and meditation and I was writing a like an open letter to Charlie — which maybe one day I'll read when this is all over — just handwriting it. And I then just sat there with my eyes closed for a bit and really considered what this would mean, because I saw it shaping and how much it would put my life at risk and put my family's life at risk and how hard it was going to be. And I looked — I kid you not — I opened my eyes and at the exact moment a bald eagle just flew, just so close to my head. And I just thought it was a sign. I just went, "You know what? If that's the ultimate symbol of freedom, then maybe this investigation does depend upon our freedom." Like, this — we're getting really close to something very dark. Not just in this country, as we have seen globally — globally in the West in particular — and our involvement across the East globally. There is something really dark. I don't know what's going on with these data centers. I don't know what's going on with Utah. I don't know why they're so tied to Romania. The pieces are coming together obviously, but we're close to it and I think we all feel it. And there's an urgency here. And I do think that Charlie died to sort of wake up the world to that urgency, as he said.
So I just wanted to thank all of you guys, because you are the reason that we just keep pushing. Thank you. I can't say thank you enough. If you guys want to continue to support us, send us emails — tips@candaceowens.com. If you know something, say something. It's that simple. You don't need to put your name on it. I have spoken through people about how I would deliver the information. I protect people — obviously don't want any person to lose their jobs. And it's just been so much remarkable bravery. You could be that person. Secrets make you sick. They do. Secrets make you sick and it's not worth selling your soul to the devil to stay quiet and support this kind of evil on this scale.