Candace Owens presents new UVU rooftop footage and reacts to Erika Kirk sharing private family videos with Andrew Wilson
Candace Owens covers new surveillance footage from UVU on September 10th and responds to Erika Kirk providing private footage of Charlie Kirk with his children to internet commentator Andrew Wilson.
Summary
Candace Owens presents what she describes as never-before-seen surveillance footage from UVU on September 10th — the day Charlie Kirk was shot — focusing on a series of events in the minutes leading up to the incident, including the movements of Charlie's assistants Danny Phillip and Nate Walker, who she says offloaded bags into an SUV and then retrieved them again within a four-minute window, coinciding with what she describes as a two-minute surveillance blackout. She also presents clearer rooftop footage that she argues confirms the Dodge Challenger entering the parking garage had quad exhaust tips, which she contends differs from Tyler Robinson's confirmed vehicle. In the second major segment, Owens reacts with visible disgust to Erika Kirk having provided Andrew Wilson — a commentator Owens describes as a deliberate chaos agent — with what may be the last recorded footage of Charlie Kirk with his children, as well as private text messages between Erika and her mother, all purportedly to debunk the Fort Wachuka story. Owens argues that giving such intimate material to Wilson rather than a credible journalist reveals both a lack of genuine grief and a deliberate strategy to maintain legal distance from official statements.
Key Takeaways
FULL TRANSCRIPT
Opening remarks and correction on the Keller Building
Candace Owens: Happy Wednesday. You made it to the halfway point in the week. We have a fantastic episode ahead because there is a lot of stuff going on today. Really, a lot of stuff every day. But Erika Kirk — she really is not in the business of beating the charges. That's what I feel might be her kryptonite, just trying to beat the internet charges. If I'm managing your PR brand and your entire fake public persona is going to revolve around Christianity — and our plan is to pretend that you can't even utter a sentence that doesn't begin with the Lord — I would probably advise heavily against you simultaneously associating yourself with Andrew Wilson, this textual relationship with Andrew Wilson that's developing, because people are going to have questions when you begin sending him videos of your children.
And yes, ladies and gentlemen, she has now taken the rather dramatic step to provide Andrew Wilson of all people — Smokey Boy — with what might be the last footage ever captured of Charlie Kirk alive with his children. I can't make this stuff up. She's given it over to Andrew Wilson to release to the public as what is registering to everyone as just an internet troll. I'm going to tell you all about that. But first, we have to remain focused with new, never-before-seen footage from September 10th. And it's a big deal, if I do say so myself. This footage I believe is crucial. And because I recognize the always unique timing of TPUSA deploying these chaos agents — that's what they are, they try to just suck your energy like the Wilsons — I know that it means that we cannot take the bait of distraction. And so back to UVU on September 10th we go.
Welcome back to Candace. Foremost, I have to issue a quick correction. You know, we strive to be correct. I was live searching yesterday and I misspoke. I wrongly asserted, when we were talking about Chelsea and Casey Bowel and the entrepreneurship institute, that it was in the Woodbury building at UVU. We were wrong. I meant to say that it's located in the Keller building at UVU, which is the building that is directly next to the admissions lot. Just to jog your memory, I was speaking about the N88 KG plane, which ruffled a lot of feathers early on in the investigation, owned by Derek and Chellain Maxfield. I'm not asserting that Casey and his wife had anything to do with anything. I was just pointing out that they were the other owners on that jet, and they didn't really catch any flak. The building I should have said was the Keller building, which is directly next to the lot. I said Woodbury. So quick little correction there.
Dodge Challenger exhaust tips — new footage analysis
Now to address the many Dodge Challenger emails that we received yesterday. There was something very interesting which we were able to confirm with our rooftop footage. The world never understood why the feds kept supplying grainy footage from the parking lot, grainy footage from campus with the aspect ratio adjusted, when there was clearer footage available. It never made sense, especially in the midst of a manhunt. Why not just release everything if you're actually trying to catch the guy?
Well, in retrospect, it seems to be the case that they did not want people to be able to clearly identify details about the suspect, or perhaps more crucially, the car that he was driving. With grainy footage, we could only realistically make guesses. And one of the things that we and many others pointed out early on was that it appeared that the exhaust pipes featured on Maroon Boy's Dodge Challenger were potentially not a match with Tyler Robinson's confirmed Dodge Challenger.
The clearer footage seems to confirm that fact. What we can say is it has definitively cleared up beyond a reasonable doubt which sorts of exhaust pipes are featured on the Challenger that goes into the garage. We can now assert with full confidence that the Dodge Challenger which enters the parking garage has quad exhaust tips. I got that wrong — I didn't really know the difference. Quad meaning four exhaust tips in total — forgive me for being a stereotype of a woman — two on each side. I'm going to show you that in various photos. Here is him pulling into the garage. Our Maroon Boy. You can just look. We are looking at two on that side, two on the other side. These are what is known as quad exhaust tips, four in total.
Now, many have asserted that this is a variation from Tyler's confirmed vehicle on the basis of the circulating videos of his car getting towed into evidence. I'm not going to say this with 100% certainty because I'm terrible at cars and I don't always trust my gut instinct, but I am going to show you the video of his car getting towed and say that it certainly appears that these are dual exhaust — a total of one, two exhaust pipes, one on each side. Take a look here. This is his car getting towed. People have sent — we got so many emails like this — and it does look like a single exhaust on each side, as you guys can see. And again, I can show you a still photo of that as well. On the car stuff, I always like to hedge just in case. It's not my expertise. But I do think that yes, I see what many others have pointed out, and that is a very big deal. Potentially a very big deal.
I also then made some phone calls and I am told that Tyler Robinson's are, yes, dual exhaust — two total. And I do want to say this because I was so driven crazy by an email that I couldn't find. Early on in the investigation, someone sent me an email saying that they had been walking down the street of Tyler Robinson's parents, and this was days after Tyler Robinson had quote-unquote turned himself in, and they saw his car. They sent me multiple photos of Tyler Robinson's car sitting in the driveway, and I have misplaced those photos. So if you have other photos of Tyler Robinson's car — clear photos, maybe you were walking through the neighborhood in those early days — please resend them to us at moretips@candaceowens.com. I would love to get super clear, exclusive photos of Tyler's car.
New rooftop surveillance footage — the alleged shooter's movements
Okay, moving on. As I said, we have to return to the scene of the crime — UVU campus, September 10th. I want you guys to know that a lot of weird stuff happened in the five minutes leading up to Charlie's explosive going off. Namely, a lot of people got busy. I think that's the best way to say it. So allow me to sort of create a visual storyboard for you, so to speak.
It is 12:16 p.m. — seven minutes until the Big Bang. At this time, upon a walkway which is going to lead up to the Veloz Center rooftop, a stone cold killer has emerged and he has reached a concrete wall. Now, for clarity, this is the specific wall that I am referring to right here, to give you a visual. He is going to happen upon that concrete barrier — a concrete barrier which separates the walkway from the Loy Center rooftop. And what he will do next? Well, he's just going to stand there for over a minute and contemplate.
I want to show you guys that footage. We're going to watch it for the full minute. I think the more that at-home investigators have, the better. So again, putting in your mind: this is approximately 12:16 p.m. Take a look and please mind the silence, because there's not really much to look at other than him contemplating for a minute.
I would also like to add that this person appears to me to be very tall. Very tall person is what I would say. I'm observing with my eyes here, by the way. This is my show, my podcast. I'm going to say what I believe that I see. And this person appears to me to be very tall. This is our guy — just so you guys know, this is the guy that they are going to allege killed Charlie Kirk. So take it in. Thoughts? Maybe he's thinking about his Wordle score. I don't know what he's thinking about, but here it is. I think this person also looked very thin. Tall, backpack.
We are now coming up to 12:17 p.m. And we know what happens next. He's done contemplating about whatever it is he's contemplating about, because it's time to move. There we go — he's going to jump over that ledge, and he's going to crouch, and he's going to remain crouched until it's time to sprint across the rooftop.
Blake Neff and Charlie's assistants — simultaneous movements at 12:17 p.m.
And while he is crouched, we are to imagine — not see, imagine — what he's doing. Some people like Blake Neff like to imagine that he's assembling a rifle somehow, that he doesn't have to worry about having to zero the scope, that he's just going to assemble a rifle that's been in his pants. I like to imagine, since we're all free to imagine, that he's simply texting to check in with others who are involved in this operation. That's what I like to imagine. Nobody knows.
What we don't have to imagine is what Blake Neff is doing at this exact time. Blake Neff is on his phone. Let's check in. He's on his phone behind the tent. Maybe he's texting. Maybe he's authoring an email. Maybe he's marking time, like he said that he was doing back in Salt Lake City when he got lost and doesn't remember much else. Who knows?
What we also do not have to imagine is what Danny Phillip was doing. Danny Phillip — not to forget, one of Charlie's assistants, a new hire who drove Blake Neff to the event in an SUV. Gratefully, we also don't have to imagine what his other assistant is doing — Nate Walker — because at nearly the exact same time, I'm talking 12:17, nearly the exact same time that the alleged killer jumps onto the Loy Center rooftop and ducks — and I'm talking within five seconds when I say exact same time — Danny Phillip and Nate Walker are going to make their way to Danny's SUV.
This is the SUV, by the way, that has caused a serious bout of amnesia for Blake Neff. I don't know what's going on in that SUV, why he can't remember things. He's very hesitant to speak about that. He didn't even remember that he showed up at the event with Danny, remember? And many of us were also wondering why Blake Neff was being driven like he had called an Uber driver. He was in the back seat when they showed up and Danny was in the front seat. The passenger seat — the front passenger seat — was vacant. It's a very strange way to drive with your colleagues. But I digress.
The bag drop, the surveillance blackout, and the backpack reappearance
The point is, at 12:17, Nate Walker and Danny Phillip head to the SUV to offload their backpacks. This is very important and I want you to watch this together. I will also note that we have slowed this footage down because I want you guys to just be able to see this and make up your own minds about what you're seeing.
Here you go. We have Danny here. He takes off his backpack and puts it in the passenger seat. Nate is fishing something out of his — I guess it would be more appropriate to call that a briefcase rather than a backpack. And they're communicating about whatever that is. Danny in front of him. Nate looks behind. And then Nate takes off his little side bag and puts it in the car. They close the door and you can see the lights — they lock. They lock the door. Okay. So Charlie's car is not locked. That car is locked.
Now, I can make no suggestion as to why they decided to offload their luggage, so to speak — their backpack and this bag. But I can tell you that it deeply bothers me. And I can tell you what it is exactly that deeply bothers me about this, because I have since learned that as soon as they walk away, a remarkable thing happens. And I'll say allegedly here for safety, but there's a surveillance blackout for two whole minutes. So to approximate that for you: from 12:18 to 12:20, the surveillance system of this area just goes kaput.
Now, to be clear, I'm not alleging that these two did anything wrong. But I don't like the timing of that surveillance blackout. Because when the surveillance system returns and comes back online at about 12:21, Danny has his backpack again. Take a look. This is Danny with his backpack. There he is in the corner. He's got his backpack on, and we are now t-minus two minutes from the Big Bang.
I have sat and pondered this information in my lonesome for months and I cannot fathom — you guys can help me — I can't think through any logical reason as to why any person would put their backpack in a car, lock said car, walk away from the car, only to then unlock that car and put their backpack on again, all within a span of about four minutes. My rational mind can't allow for that. I'm trying to complete this in a way that makes sense. All I can do is infer. And when I do that, I find myself asking questions. I'm wondering if someone maybe went into the car, went inside of that backpack and took something out of that backpack, or out of Nate's bag — something that was in the passenger seat. I don't know. I'll admit that's totally an inference. It's my brain trying to meaningfully fill in a literal surveillance blank.
Nate Walker's movements and the missing bag
What we do know for certain is that it's now t-minus two minutes until Charlie is going to get hit — 12:23. We know for a fact that Nate Walker, after dropping off this bag in the car, is going to head up toward the Hall of Flags and toward the Sorenson Center with Charlie's driver, Chris, in tow. We still have not meaningfully identified who Chris is, why he's going up there, why the door is seemingly unlocked in Charlie's car if it's supposed to be a security vehicle. But we know Nate Walker goes up there and he doesn't have his bag with him. He's not going to retrieve his bag again, it seems. He neither has it up by the Hall of Flags, nor — if we fast forward in the story to around 1:20 p.m. when they arrive at the hospital — does he have it. Danny's got his backpack, but Nate does not have his bag. Those are the facts.
Behind the tent — footage from 12:21 p.m.
Anyway, I think we should share more to the public. And what I would like to share with you guys now is more footage of what happened behind the tent when the surveillance system came back on. There's a lot to unpack here, but I'm going to sort of let it play out and walk you guys through it. Okay, this is 12:21 behind the tent. There is not going to be any gore. You don't have to worry about that. Take a look.
Okay, so we have a Turning Point USA photographer speaking with Angel Castro. And obviously that's Caleb who works for the TPUSA club. Angel is going to walk over and hand his wife what we are told by Brian Harpole are mints. And then she takes those mints and she hands them over to Brian Harpole. Angel takes hats off of the car, and then what happens shortly thereafter is chaos. Obviously, we know that chaos takes place.
I did want to also introduce that to you as final moments leading up to the Big Bang going off. Doesn't mean anything. It's just sharing footage. The more the merrier — the more that we have, the more that we can discuss and the more that we can think through. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Maybe there's nothing weird about the backpack and dropping off bags. I don't know. It could be, like I said, that there are very clear answers as to what is going on. I do think the public deserves them at this stage. Those answers do not need to be given to me. I've never suggested they need to be provided to me. I've always suggested that since they're a public organization who regularly colludes with influencers, they just provide the information to a respectable journalist — or a journalist that they respect, rather. That's a better way of saying it. There are many. They've shown that they go to the Daily Mail. This would be a good time to do that.
I think as this goes on, we are coming up with a lot more questions than we are answers. All we're being met with are very, very angry Turning Point USA employees and Turning Point USA affiliates. And I don't understand the anger. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.
Erika Kirk, Andrew Wilson, and the private family footage
All right, guys. I am fully disgusted by what Erika Kirk has done, and I'm going to tell you right here.
I'm going to tee this up for you. Let me remind you of the bizarre overreaction to the Fort Wachuka story from last December. Regarding Mitch Snow — a man whose story I still, despite being in the middle of a lawsuit, I deem to be credible. I took every measure that I should have taken as a journalist to confirm the story, to confirm what he said. I was very clear that I can confirm where he was. I can confirm that this incident took place. I can confirm he was at Fort Wachuka. I can confirm which hotel he was at. But what I cannot confirm is his memory. He thinks he saw someone that to him he felt certain was Erika Kirk. He thinks he saw Brian Harpole. That I'm limited on — I obviously can't confirm that. But I did try to. I reached out to Brian Harpole before I had Mitch on my show and asked him for a clean answer. I messaged this man like five times. He never answered. And I simply said, "I would have taken Brian Harpole's word over Mitch's at that time." But they got crazy.
This is when Erika suddenly started doing the PR rounds. She asked people to just stop. As soon as we mentioned Fort Wachuka, things just got crazy at the end of last year. And we haven't really picked up that story since because we're going to find out stuff. We've obviously been collecting some other information, but I have a pending lawsuit, so I'm going to save that information for there. But fast forward to today — we're now nine months into a lawsuit away from having covered that story. And I would also like to add the fact that I'm very comfortable that I conducted myself way above board in trying to seek answers and get a confirmation from Brian Harpole. And I'm looking forward to getting a real alibi through the court system. We are all going to find out about Fort Wachuka. It's now inevitable. There's a lawsuit.
And suddenly Erika introduces us to Andrew Wilson over the summer. We are now being introduced to Andrew Wilson — an obviously dishonest and disingenuous person who never cared about this case, who called Erika too something to kill her husband, who regularly lambasted Turning Point USA for feminism and promoting these archetypes — until she welcomed him into TPUSA headquarters, and then everything changed. And he doesn't know what's going on, but he's just going to get in front of Turning Point USA and troll the public.
It's difficult to underscore how patently ghetto and trashy he and his wife are. His wife had five children out of wedlock with three different men. We can't pretend this is conservative. We can't pretend this is anywhere near conservatism. They are not pious or religious — nothing of the sort. I will not have it. This is not Christianity.
But I do want you to truly appreciate who these individuals are. You saw a lot of Andrew's character as he lied to my face repeatedly — lied about what happened ten seconds ago. He does not care. He will lie. He's proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. But since you didn't know who they were — I didn't know who they were, and Erika just gave them to us — I do want you to see them. We just put together this little reel of them. I find them to be truly just — I'm shocked that they're going further into a relationship with these two individuals. And I have to apologize in advance because the language is obviously debased, but I have to paint a fuller picture. So I will say: if you are watching this podcast and you are underage, or parents are watching this with their minor children, now would be a good time for you to turn the volume down or off completely.
Andrew Wilson and Rachel Wilson — video compilation
Okay, here we go. This is just Rachel and Andrew Wilson.
Andrew Wilson: "I don't think that there's evidence to support that Epstein was involved in international sex blackmail operations. There seems to be a lot of evidence that he was at least tied to intelligence agencies, which doesn't surprise me because he was a banker for Rothschild and he was an investment banker for other large banking operations. So that wouldn't surprise me at all if you had intelligence links. Most of these guys seem to. But I haven't seen any good compelling evidence that this guy was flying children around the world for other people to have sex with and then blackmail them. And that's where the mythology part comes in."
Andrew Wilson: "Well, this is going to go viral and a lot of people are going to take me seriously, and all they're going to remember is that I told you that you couldn't put down the Dunkin' Donuts long enough to make an argument. Now, can you make one or not?"
Rachel Wilson: "Oh, you know, this is schoolboy."
Andrew Wilson: "By the way, a real man doesn't speak down to a woman the way you do. You're not a real man. You're actually a very feminine man."
Andrew Wilson: "Nobody cares what you think real men are. Can you tell me all of the downsides of Donald Trump killing pedophiles in the Middle East? First of all, do you know every single person? Were those school girls pedophiles?"
Rachel Wilson: "It's institutionalized in the Iranian—"
Andrew Wilson: "No. Were the 200 school girls pedophiles? You want to make sure that they're alive so they get raped?"
Andrew Wilson: "You're a dyke. Don't talk about my wife, you stupid — shut your mouth. Shut your stupid — mouth."
Rachel Wilson: "Your wife with the three babies—"
Andrew Wilson: "What did I just say? Sorry. I'm sorry. Is she morally inconsequential in comparison to your — keep shaking. Keep crying. Because you only thought you could come around."
Rachel Wilson: "I'll shake and I'll say everything with the power and vigor in my voice because I have strength and I'm not going to—"
Andrew Wilson: "Oh, you got strength. Yeah, mental strength. Hey, you were brave. Shut up, woman. Quiet. What you did was — you were a savage when I was unwilling, as a man, to pick you up and throw you right out the window, which I can do in five seconds."
Owens responds to the Wilson footage
Candace Owens: This is TPUSA 2.0. I just — you can't — there's no defending this. There's no pretending it's not happening. They're hosting this guy. They're asking him to come in to teach people how to debate. They want access to middle schoolers — mandated access to middle schoolers and your children. This is what they're partnering with. You cannot ignore those facts.
Charlie would have never, ever, ever welcomed Andrew Wilson into the Turning Point USA 1.0 fold. Okay. Erika Kirk — no problem. Again, at the same time, she's maintaining this holier-than-thou persona: "Oh, I just can't believe what Candace is doing. It's just so horrible to be investigating my husband's murder. The Lord will take care of things." And I keep telling you guys — she's nasty behind the scenes. Erika is much more like this behind the scenes. She just manipulates people by crying. But she's the one that's deploying these people.
Andrew Wilson's late-night stream — the private footage release
Now, fast forward to sometime in the wee hours of the morning last night, because that's when Andrew is up. That's when he does his streams. That's when he raises money on his streams, because he can't wake up early — as he told me on PBD. He's a night owl. And he claims that he's in possession of a video that is going to debunk the Fort Wachuka story. We don't actually need that. We're in court. We're good. We're going to handle that. Of course, the video he presents absolutely does no such thing, but that's beyond the relevant point here.
What he presents is a private video of Charlie Kirk with his children on September 8th. A video that the world has never seen. He says Charlie is watching the Bears game with his children on the couch. So I want to clarify: this footage on September 8th, if this is actual footage from September 8th of Charlie on the couch, would be potentially the last footage ever captured of Charlie with his children on Earth. I just want you to process how precious that footage would be if you loved your husband and you loved your children. You wouldn't even be able to look at this footage without crying. You wouldn't even be able to look at this footage without bawling, realizing it is potentially the last footage you've ever captured of your husband with his children. You certainly would not be giving it to anyone. Least of all Andrew Wilson, to troll the internet.
That's it. He does. He presents this footage and I'm going to show you it.
Charlie Kirk: "Say go Bears."
Child: "Go Bears."
Candace Owens: And sorry — I said Cubs earlier. I should have said Bears. And to be clear, there is nothing shocking about this footage. Erika is not featured in this footage. As we've covered extensively, we knew that Charlie was home. Frank Turek was the one who told us initially that Charlie was home on the 8th watching the Bears game. And then Charlie let us know as well, because on his show the next day he recounted every minute of the Bears game. So if this is footage from that particular Bears game, this is not shocking. No one understands why she would give this footage out.
Erika could have just come out and given a clean statement herself. If she wanted to present this as some sort of evidence — which it wouldn't be — she could do it herself. She could literally go on to Charlie Kirk's platform, which used to be a respectable platform, and she could say, "Here's footage that I want to show you of my late husband, who I love so much. I can't even look at this footage. It brings tears to my eyes. But I wanted to show it to you because I wrongly think it debunks Fort Wachuka." Or maybe just presenting the footage in general to the public because it's the last captured footage of your husband at home, as Andrew Wilson is claiming — not her.
By the way, we never get these official statements from Andrew Kolvet, who is the official spokesperson for Turning Point USA. They basically try to send it in a direction that's not exactly legally clear. He can lie. Andrew Wilson can lie about everything. He has no official ties to Turning Point USA. He can present things to the public. He's just a chaos agent. And they can plausibly deny in a courtroom. They can say, "Oh, well, he does not have an official role. He's not an official spokesperson for Turning Point USA. This is not what Erika told him when she sent him the footage. He's lying." And he's happy to be that person for them.
But I just want to talk about the lack of dignity and respect given to Charlie's memory. Beyond this point, no one will ever convince me that Erika loved her husband. There's no way. I could not go through footage as his friend. I could not go through or watch footage of me and Charlie. It hurt me. It brought tears to my eyes. It was not something that I could do. The idea of losing your husband in such a public way — finding, having in your possession footage which she never mentioned to me when I politely asked her, when things were good, about where her whereabouts were on September 8th. She never said, "Oh, I have footage of — I was—" She never mentioned a Bears game. She never said that she recorded Charlie with the children. This is all a brand new narrative, which is different from what she told me when they were publicly saying Candace was his friend.
In fact, we were told he was with the nanny. Like, nannies and babysitters capture footage of your kids all the time. Maybe she's sending it to Erika. Who knows? Why wouldn't Erika mention that to me? And if she really wanted the footage out, why not give it to somebody more respectable? You have zero respect for Charlie — or your children, by the way, or his legacy — to give that footage, what should be precious footage, to an internet troll, a chain-smoking internet troll and his trash wife, for the purposes of trolling the internet, only to confuse matters. This is not a debunk of anything. Nothing at all.
And if you want to debunk things, go to Tucker Carlson — he's your friend. You could go to Megyn Kelly — she's your friend. You could go to the Daily Mail — you've proven they're your friend. You could go to Kash Patel. You could have the President of the United States, who's your friend, publish it onto the White House Twitter feed. But you didn't do any of that because you wanted plausible legal distance. Because you did not want to tie up people who are reputable. You wanted somebody who prides himself on being disreputable, who does not care, who's willing to lie for cash. He does not care at all. He's like, "I will say the thing." We watched him do that live over and over again on this show. And you did that for what purpose? I think to distract from the investigation. I think it proves that you had no respect at all for Charlie, your marriage, your children. It's sick. It's disturbing. I'm so disturbed by it.
Erika shares her mother's private text messages
And by the way, guys, it's about to get sicker, because she's also going to sell her mom. In addition, he alleges that Erika supplied him with a private text communication between her and her mother from September 8th. Again, nothing about these messages is going to tell us where Erika is. We're not going to be able to say whether she's on Fort Wachuka base, whether she's in Arizona. I've never said that she's in Fort Wachuka. I couldn't tell you. I don't have Mitch's eyes. And these people have been dancing around just giving an answer. They'd rather file a lawsuit than answer a text message. It's bizarre.
But here is the text message thread that he showed — apparently between Erika and her mother. She's giving this information to Andrew Wilson.
Her mother writes: "Did you make it to the bank? I'm sorry. I am so much work and you're just tapped out." Erika says: "No, you're fine. I love you. I just am trying to fit it in. I'm still at the bank." And then: "Charlie wants me to make him dinner also. So if I don't respond, I'm not ignoring you." The time is 4:13 p.m. They go on. It's 5:00 p.m. Her mother writes: "The scale reaches 100.8 after a late lunch." So she's talking about her own weight and illness. And then Erika writes back: "Do you like broccoli soup?" And then the mother replies: "Yes, please use only the flowers, not the stems. Stems kill," she writes. "Stems connect to flowers. Throw out." Erika responds at 7:18 p.m. and says: "Okay, how are you feeling?" Her mother at 9:20 p.m. says: "Okay, my tremors are intense." Then Erika writes back: "Please make sure you eat."
We have learned nothing about where Erika is. She's at a bank. If these are to be believed — I have no idea if these text messages are real. I have no idea why they're coming from Andrew Wilson. I have no idea what they have to do with Fort Wachuka. It does nothing but demonstrate Erika's character. And that's why I wanted to harp on this, because it's so disgusting that you would sell your sick mother and the last memories of your husband with your kids to Andrew Wilson for the purposes of trolling. That's all. This is just a troll. There's nothing that's been clarified here. It's just meant to confuse people.
Metadata can be edited — Wilson's "proof" is meaningless
And then he says, "Well, the metadata shows—" and he keeps showing the September 8th metadata. Andrew Wilson is not even smart enough to know that you can just edit the metadata on your own phone for every photo that you have in your entire phone. Every photo — you could just take it, go through it, and you can edit the metadata to say whatever you want. And I think it is best illustrated by Baron Coleman's tweet. He wrote: "Most people don't know, but bottled water dates back centuries. Here is a rare picture from March of 6009 showing bottled water in Persia. Trust me, bro." And he just edited the metadata to say that he took this photo on March 23rd in 6009. Andrew didn't know this, nor does he care. He's meant to be a chaos agent.
Chaos agents and the Fort Wachuka lawsuit
We're aware of what those people are. When governments get nervous, when the military gets nervous — I learned about this when people who were in my book club said you absolutely must read about chaos and what the government does. When you start to see these sorts of campaigns that are meant to distract, that to me feels like an intentional federal push that wants you to focus on this, or focus on debunking this, or responding to this. And that's why I say it's really important to remain focused.
I do find Erika to be some sort of odd government pawn. I think that has become very clear to me — from everywhere that she's with, the people that she partners with, the lack of answers that she provides, and doing things that a wife, a widow, would not naturally do. Partnerships that you would not naturally make with people like Andrew Wilson and Rachel Wilson. It is just unmistakable to me that there is something very wrong and deranged about Erika Kirk. And I will hear no more on the topic. I am asserting that as a fact after seeing this correspondence which we should not have seen and which clarifies nothing.
Audience comments
All right, top comments from yesterday's episode regarding that bizarrely gay photo of Blake with Jeremy. Pamela wrote: "Looks like Blake and Jeremy are sending out Christmas cards this year." We had so many people who were like, "I'm literally gay and I would never have posted this in my entire life." It's just so strange. People thought it was AI, that I was trolling in yesterday's thumbnail, and they were so shocked when they realized that no, this is real. They put this out themselves. No, I am not trolling.
Comments from today's episode. Ali writes: "Even if Pickles did prove that Erika wasn't at Fort Wachuka, how is that some kind of own? Because you've said from the start that you weren't sure if she was there." Yeah, I said it so many times, ad nauseam. I was like, "This is not something I can confirm." You go on to write: "You have been asking them for a statement or an alibi for months. You only got interested when they started giving fake alibis and overreacting." It was truly the bizarre overreaction. Them sending out every Paramount Tactical, suddenly talking to his son — it was crazy. At that point, I didn't know Mitch from a hole in the wall. I did everything I could to verify the story and I made that very clear. And I said, "Look, he could be one of those people that remembers spaces where he doesn't." And also, I said that even if he did see Erika on September 8th at a hotel, it didn't mean anything, because we knew that her mother had military contracts. So I was also like, "What does that actually mean?" He didn't say that she was in some weird meeting. He just said he saw her leaving a hotel on the base. And I thought, "Okay, well Erika has grown up around the military. That could not mean anything. She could just have literally been going to see a friend. She could have been dropping off something to a friend." I was not convinced of anything regarding what this meant about Erika if she was at Fort Wachuka — until they just — the overreaction, the influencers that were put together. It seemed to me the majority of them — Green Berets didn't help, like okay, the military getting together a bunch of military guys to respond to this and start threatening people and being so forceful — never made sense to me. So it wasn't — the story probably would have maybe faded to the back until they started acting weird.
Against the Darkness writes: "Candace has shifted the collective consciousness of the masses to see through the deception and lies. Charlie predicted this. Rest well, Charlie, you were never forgotten." Thank you for saying that. I do think what we're doing right now is a lot of what Charlie predicted — that his death would contribute to a wider awakening. I wish he did not have to die for a wider awakening, of course. But I now try to see things like the people coming together, or the left and the right coming together, and us just calling BS instantly on a lot of these narratives, as a consequence — because the devil overplayed his hand.
Christy writes: "Candace, we don't know, but we know who may be behind this — the multiples. Have you thought about your trajectory after this case closes? You say that you are not interested in politics, but would you, for the greater good?" I'm genuinely not interested in politics. I am so sickened by them. And that's just where I am right now. I know that you can make plans and God laughs. But I can say that watching what happened to Charlie, and the people that betrayed him and the people that betray him every day, and how much of his life he gave to politics — I don't want to be that person. I want to give my life to the people that make my life better. And it's not in DC. Those people absolutely sicken me. We have the Epstein class of people still trying to gaslight us about what's in the files that they're hiding. By the way, they have not released all the files. If there's nothing to hide, there's nothing to hide.
UFO writes: "Erika France continues to expose herself. She is desperate. Andrew Ashtray gained traction after you humiliated him, and he is now quickly losing it. He's a low-life grifter." Everybody can see that. It's not helpful for them to give him anything. Just give it to a respectable journalist. This is bonkers that they're doing this. And like I said, it shows that they want some legal distance. That's how I read it. They want somebody who is a routine liar, who does not care, who has nothing to lose, and who will just go out there and troll people, try to get people trapped into defamation suits. Basically, they want a guy to do their dirty work. But they're picking someone who has also proven that he's not that smart. He just doesn't seem like he's that smart. He doesn't understand basic concepts. He doesn't do basic research. He's more of a performer. I would describe him and his wife as performers — and ghetto ones at that. They are very trashy people.
And you just can't keep up this pretense of holier-than-thou, the Lord, the Lord. I wouldn't want Erika in front of kids. I don't want her in front of middle schoolers. I don't want her in front of high schoolers. I don't like the questions. I don't like the facade. I don't like the lingering questions that she refuses to answer. And there may be answers, but the fact that she refuses to give them and partners with people like this should make every parent uneasy. And I think that's why so many parents revolted with her mandated assembly over at the Christian school in Idaho. So I would like to urge parents — or commend parents, but also urge parents — to recognize that this is a different company. This is a different organization. This is not what Charlie Kirk built. We see evidence of that everywhere.
Erika Kirk is very different from Charlie and how he handled things. That organization under Charlie Kirk was very different. Blake Neff is obviously unwell — it's the nicest way that we could possibly say it. He's coming apart. And this is not an organization that believes in free speech and believes in a meritocracy and believes in the free markets. This is an organization that believes in power and has demonstrated itself as willing to engage in corrupt measures to get what they want. That's the nicest way that I can say it.